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FightingLiberal
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Posted: Sun Jan 30th, 2005 01:13 am |
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27 Similarities between Hitler and President Bush
After President Bush promised last fall to invade Iraq, his spokesmen fell
into the habit of comparing Saddam Hussein with Adolph Hitler, by most
accounts the most monstrous figure in modern history. Everybody was
therefore shocked when the German Minister of Justice turned the tables by
comparing Bush himself with Hitler. As to be expected, she (the Justice
Minister) was forced to resign because of her extreme disrespect for an
American president. However, the resemblance sticks -- there are too many
similarities to be ignored, some of which may be listed here.
1. Like Hitler, President Bush was not elected by a majority, but was forced
to engage in political maneuvering in order to gain office.
2. Like Hitler, Bush began to curtail civil liberties in response to a
well-publicized national outrage, in Hitler's case the Reichstag fire, in
Bush's case the 9-11 catastrophe.
3. Like Hitler, Bush went on to pursue a reckless ultra-nationalist foreign
policy without the mandate of the electorate.
4. Like Hitler, Bush has accordingly improved his popularity ratings,
especially with veterans and conservative Republicans, by mounting an
aggressive public relations campaign against foreign enemies. Just as Hitler
cited international communism to justify Germany's military buildup, Bush
uses Al Qaeda and the Axis of Evil to justify our current military buildup.
5. Like Hitler, Bush promotes militarism while in the midst of a major
economic recession (or depression). He uses war preparations to help
subsidize defense industries (Halliburton, Bechtel, etc.) and presumably the
rest of the economy on a trickle-down basis.
6. Like Hitler, Bush glorifies patriotism to stir up public support. He
treats our nation's unique historic destiny almost as a religious cause
sanctioned by God.
7. Like Hitler, Bush quickly makes and breaks diplomatic ties, and he makes
generous promises that he soon abandons, as in the case of Mexico, Russia,
Afghanistan, and even New York City.
8. Like Hitler, Bush envisages a future world order that guarantees his own
nation's hegemonic supremacy rather than cooperative harmony under the
authority of the United Nations (or League of Nations). He is willing to
break the U.N. Charter in promoting this end.
9. Like Hitler, Bush scraps international treaties, most notably the
Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty, the Biological Weapons Convention, the
Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, the Convention on the Prohibition of Land
Mines, the Chemical Weapons Convention, the Kyoto Global Warming Accord, and
the International Criminal Court.
10. Like Hitler, Bush depends on an axis of collaborative allies, which he
describes as a "coalition of the willing," to give the impression of having a
broad popular alliance. These include the U.K. as compared to Mussolini's
Italy, and Spain and Bulgaria as compared to, well, Spain and Bulgaria, both
of which were aligned with Germany during the thirties and World War II.
11. Like Hitler, Bush possesses a war machine much bigger and more effective
than the military capabilities of other nations. Today, Bush depends on a
"defense" budget roughly equivalent to the combined military expenditures of
the rest of the world.
12. Like Hitler, Bush is willing to invade other nations despite the
opposition of the U.N. (League of Nations). He also has no qualms about
bribing, bullying and insulting its members, even tapping their telephone
lines.
13. Like Hitler, Bush pursues war without cutting back on the peacetime
economy. He actually seeks to reduce taxes while conducting an expensive
invasion and occupation of an "undesirable" nation.
14. Like Hitler, Bush launches unilateral invasions on a supposedly
preemptive basis. Just as Hitler convinced the German public to think of
Poland as a threat to Germany in 1939, Bush wants Americans to think of Iraq
as a "potential" threat to our national security.
15. Like Hitler, Bush is willing to inflict high levels of bloodshed, with
many thousands of casualties anticipated in Iraq, especially since the city
of Baghdad--with a population of between 5 and 6 million--will be a primary
target.
16. Like Hitler, Bush depends on a military strategy that features a "shock
and awe" blitzkrieg beginning with devastating air strikes, then an invasion
led by heavy armor columns.
17. Like Hitler, Bush is perfectly willing to sacrifice life as part of his
official duty, as indicated by his unique record as a governor of Texas who
was reluctant to commute death sentences.
18. Like Hitler Bush began warfare on a single front (Al Qaeda quartered in
Afghanistan), but then expanded it to a second front with Iraq, only to be
confronted with North Korea as a potential third front. Much the same thing
happened when Hitler expanded German military operations from Spain to Poland
and France, then was distracted by Yugoslavia before invading the USSR in
1941.
19. Like Hitler, Bush has no qualms about imposing "regime change" by
installing Quisling-style client governments reinforced by full-scale
military occupation under a military governor.
20. Like Hitler, Bush curtails civil liberties and depends on detention
centers (i.e. concentration camps) such as Guantanamo Bay.
21. Like Hitler, Bush repeats lies often enough that they come to be accepted
as the truth. Bush and his spokesmen argue, for example that every measure
has been taken to avoid war (hardly true), that an invasion of Iraq will
diminish (not intensify) the terrorist threat to the world, and that the U.S.
is staging an invasion because the risks of inaction would be greater (not
less). All of this is highly debatable. They likewise argue that Iraq is
linked with Al Qaeda (which has yet to be proven), and that nothing
whatsoever has been achieved by U.N. inspectors to warrant the postponement
of U.S. war plans (which simply isn't true). They insist that Iraq hides
numerous weapons it does not possess as well
as can be determined by U.N. inspectors, and they refuse to acknowledge the
total absence of any nuclear weapons program in Iraq since the late nineties.
As perhaps to be expected, they indignantly accuse everybody else of
deception and evasiveness.
22. Like Hitler, Bush incessantly finds new excuses to justify war—from
Iraq's WMD threat to the elimination of Saddam Hussein, to his supposed Al
Qaeda connection, to the creation of democracy in the Middle East as a model
for neighboring states, and back again to the WMD threat. As soon as one
excuse for war is challenged, Bush shifts to another, but only to shift back
again at another time.
23. Like Hitler Bush and his cohorts exaggerate ruthlessness by their enemies
in order to justify their own. Just as Hitler cited the threat of communist
violence to justify even greater violence on the part of Germany, the Bush
team justifies a full-scale invasion of Iraq by emphasizing Saddam Hussein's
crimes against humanity that were for the most part committed when Iraq was a
client-ally of the U.S., supplied with both advisors and materiel (poison gas
included) by our own government.
24. Like Hitler, Bush's Messianic ambition to bring about America's hegemonic
dominance in the world makes him perhaps the most dangerous President in our
nation's history, a rogue chief executive capable of waging any number of
illegal preemptive wars.
25. Like Hitler, Bush has become so obsessed with his vision of a Manichaean
conflict between good (U.S. patriotism) and evil (the anti-patriotic "other")
that for many in contact with the White House he is beginning to seem as if
he has lost touch with reality.
26. Like Hitler, Bush takes pleasure in the mythology of frontier justice.
As a youth Hitler read and memorized the western novels of Karl May, and Bush
retains into his maturity his fascination with simplistic cowboy values. He
also exaggerates a cowboy twang despite his elitist education at Andover,
Yale and Harvard.
27. Like Hitler, Bush misconstrues evolutionary theory, in Hitler's case by
treating the Aryan race as being superior, in Bush's case by rejecting
science for fundamentalist creationism.
Of course countless differences may be listed between Hitler and President
Bush, most of which are to the credit of Bush. Nevertheless, the
twenty-seven resemblances listed here are striking, especially since Bush's
presidency this last couple of years must be compared to Hitler's early
performance as German Chancellor, preceding the chain of events that
culminated in World War II. As with Hitler, Bush's early successes in
pursuit of global imperialism--whatever the cost to others--might well
culminate in disaster, if not quite of the same magnitude.
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A new Libertarian
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Posted: Sun Jan 30th, 2005 02:10 am |
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| Give it a rest dude.
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Foxhound
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Posted: Sun Jan 30th, 2005 02:40 am |
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| Do you really find bush to be as evil as hitler?
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FightingLiberal
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Posted: Sun Jan 30th, 2005 02:43 am |
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Foxhound wrote: Do you really find bush to be as evil as hitler?
No, its in response to the Hitler was a leftist thread.
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_xIzooT_I3eerx_
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Posted: Sun Jan 30th, 2005 02:45 am |
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| Fl, you made Hitler sound really bad,
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FightingLiberal
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Posted: Sun Jan 30th, 2005 02:46 am |
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_xIzooT_I3eerx_ wrote: Fl, you made Hitler sound really bad,
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Evil Conservative
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Posted: Sun Jan 30th, 2005 04:49 am |
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1963 Communist Goals
The following was entered into the Congressional record by Albert Herlong, Jr. (a Floridian who served in Congress from 1949-69) in 1963.
1) US acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war
2) US willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war
3) Develop the illusion that total disarmament by the US would be a demonstration of "moral strength"
4) Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5) Extension of long term loans to Russia and Soviet Satellites
6) Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination
7) Grant recognition of Red China, and admission of Red China to the UN.
8) Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the Germany question by free elections under supervision of the UN
9) Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the US has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress
10) Allow all Soviet Satellites individual representation in the UN
11) Promote the UN as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the UN as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo)
12) Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party
13) Do away with loyalty oaths
14) Continue giving Russia access to the US Patent Office
15) Capture one or both of the political parties in the US
16) Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions, by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17) Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for Socialism, and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers associations. Put the party line in text books.
18) Gain control of all student newspapers
19) Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20) Infiltrate the press. Get control of book review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.
21) Gain control of key positions in radio, TV & motion pictures.
22) Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all form of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings", substitute shapeless, awkward, and meaningless forms.
23) Control art critics and directors of art museums. " Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art".
24) Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25) Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography, and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV.
26) Present Homosexuality, degeneracy, and promiscuity as "normal, natural, and healthy".
27) Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch"
28) Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the grounds that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state"
29) Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30) Discredit the American founding fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man".
31) Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of "the big picture:" Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32) Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture - - education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33) Eliminate all laws or procedures, which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34) Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35) Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI
36) Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37) Infiltrate and gain control of big business
38) Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand or treat.
39) Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40) Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41) Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42) Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special interest groups should rise up and make a "united force" to solve economic, political, or social problems.
43) Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44) Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45) Repeal the Connally Reservation so the US can not prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over nations and individuals alike.
How many of these Goals from the Communist of 1963 are now the primary goals of liberals and democrats in 2004. The more you read you more you can see the real plan of these anti-American shrills.
http://www.liberalscum.com
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NorCal_Teacher
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Posted: Sun Jan 30th, 2005 04:52 am |
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I am not even sure you believe what you posted
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Iconoclast
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Posted: Sun Jan 30th, 2005 10:34 am |
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Good post. I wouldn't quite put Hitler and Bush in the same category, but the 27 statements you posted are true no matter how politically offensive they may be to some people. ![[usa]](/forums/themes/default/usa.gif)
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Posted: Sun Jan 30th, 2005 10:37 am |
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Evil Conservative wrote:
1963 Communist Goals
The following was entered into the Congressional record by Albert Herlong, Jr. (a Floridian who served in Congress from 1949-69) in 1963.
1) US acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war
2) US willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war
3) Develop the illusion that total disarmament by the US would be a demonstration of "moral strength"
4) Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5) Extension of long term loans to Russia and Soviet Satellites
6) Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination
7) Grant recognition of Red China, and admission of Red China to the UN.
8) Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the Germany question by free elections under supervision of the UN
9) Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the US has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress
10) Allow all Soviet Satellites individual representation in the UN
11) Promote the UN as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the UN as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo)
12) Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party
13) Do away with loyalty oaths
14) Continue giving Russia access to the US Patent Office
15) Capture one or both of the political parties in the US
16) Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions, by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17) Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for Socialism, and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers associations. Put the party line in text books.
18) Gain control of all student newspapers
19) Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20) Infiltrate the press. Get control of book review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.
21) Gain control of key positions in radio, TV & motion pictures.
22) Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all form of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings", substitute shapeless, awkward, and meaningless forms.
23) Control art critics and directors of art museums. " Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art".
24) Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25) Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography, and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV.
26) Present Homosexuality, degeneracy, and promiscuity as "normal, natural, and healthy".
27) Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch"
28) Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the grounds that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state"
29) Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30) Discredit the American founding fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man".
31) Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of "the big picture:" Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32) Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture - - education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33) Eliminate all laws or procedures, which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34) Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35) Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI
36) Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37) Infiltrate and gain control of big business
38) Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand or treat.
39) Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40) Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41) Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42) Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special interest groups should rise up and make a "united force" to solve economic, political, or social problems.
43) Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44) Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45) Repeal the Connally Reservation so the US can not prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over nations and individuals alike.
How many of these Goals from the Communist of 1963 are now the primary goals of liberals and democrats in 2004.
http://www.liberalscum.com
I could put up a list of Nazi, Fascist, Monarchial goals that would match up real well with the Republican platform too.
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Iconoclast
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Posted: Sun Jan 30th, 2005 10:39 am |
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| Albert Herlong, Jr was obviously a fascist.
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Posted: Sun Jan 30th, 2005 10:46 am |
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| I don't know about you guys, but if the first criterium on that list makes one a communist, then I'm a communist. Looking back on it now, what is more preferable? The fact that the USA and USSR co-existed for 40 years as atomic power? Or that they duke it out using nuclear weapons?
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Posted: Sun Jan 30th, 2005 11:27 am |
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DB wrote: I don't know about you guys, but if the first criterium on that list makes one a communist, then I'm a communist. Looking back on it now, what is more preferable? The fact that the USA and USSR co-existed for 40 years as atomic power? Or that they duke it out using nuclear weapons?
During the Cold War the United States recognized the realism concerning the national interest of other nations (such as the Nixon policy of detente etc....). Neoconservatives such as the ones running the country today would have probably chosen to nuke the Soviet Union. These people called Kennedy a p***y and a Communist for handling the Cuban Missile Crisis diplomatically. Today, through declassified Soviet documents we now know that there were in fact fully operative missile silos in Cuba. Thank God that Kennedy was not the reactionary idealist that George W. Bush is.
The Bush administration has manipulated the attacks of 9-11 in order to justify an extremist foreign policy that would have been unacceptable on September 10th of that same year. The Cold War was one through coercion and summits as well as through challenging the perception of Soviet interests clandestinely; not through diplomatic isolation combined with arrogant militarism.
Remember, Herman Goering once said:
"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."
-- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials
"denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." - The conservatives in this country have learned that lesson well have they not?
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When:
- Bush removes children from the homes of their Iraqi parents and places them in institutions where they can be 'educated' about democracy;
- Bush has our army drive through Iraqi towns to 'collect' males between the ages of 15 and 60, and
- transports those males to the U.S. so they can work on U.S. interstates, railroads, etc. until they drop (dead, that is);
- Bush forces Iraqi farmers to supply their goods ONLY to the U.S. army;
- Bush instructs our army to round up Iraqi children for 'interrogation' under gun point;
- Bush tells the Iraqi Muslims to were a badge for easy recognition, and they'll be killed if they don't;
- Bush starts rounding up the Iraqi Muslim families, places them in 'work camps', performs medical experiments on them, starves them, and have them dig their own graves;
- Bush goes into any Iraqi town, lines up every woman, and have them shot to 'set an example';
Then we'll talk about similarities.
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FightingLiberal
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Posted: Sun Jan 30th, 2005 07:18 pm |
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Iconoclast wrote: Good post. I wouldn't quite put Hitler and Bush in the same category, but the 27 statements you posted are true no matter how politically offensive they may be to some people.
Your right, they arent on the same page but some striking similarities exist.
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Big Tex
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Posted: Sun Jan 30th, 2005 07:36 pm |
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FightingLiberal wrote:
Iconoclast wrote: Good post. I wouldn't quite put Hitler and Bush in the same category, but the 27 statements you posted are true no matter how politically offensive they may be to some people.
Your right, they arent on the same page but some striking similarities exist.
There are some striking resemblances between you and ZZPat but we were willing to overlook that....until now.
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FightingLiberal
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Posted: Sun Jan 30th, 2005 07:40 pm |
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Big Tex wrote: FightingLiberal wrote:
Iconoclast wrote: Good post. I wouldn't quite put Hitler and Bush in the same category, but the 27 statements you posted are true no matter how politically offensive they may be to some people.
Your right, they arent on the same page but some striking similarities exist.
There are some striking resemblances between you and ZZPat but we were willing to overlook that....until now.
Uh oh.![[blink]](/forums/themes/default/scared.gif)
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Iconoclast
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Posted: Sun Jan 30th, 2005 10:27 pm |
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FightingLiberal wrote: Big Tex wrote: FightingLiberal wrote:
Iconoclast wrote: Good post. I wouldn't quite put Hitler and Bush in the same category, but the 27 statements you posted are true no matter how politically offensive they may be to some people.
Your right, they arent on the same page but some striking similarities exist.
There are some striking resemblances between you and ZZPat but we were willing to overlook that....until now.
Uh oh.
Yes, the Neoconservative Council has revoked your pardon. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
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FightingLiberal
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Posted: Sun Jan 30th, 2005 10:28 pm |
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Now that ZZpat is gone the Neo Cons need a new Liberal enemy #1.
Last edited on Sun Jan 30th, 2005 10:30 pm by FightingLiberal
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Iconoclast
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Posted: Sun Jan 30th, 2005 10:51 pm |
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FightingLiberal wrote: Now that ZZpat is gone the Neo Cons need a new Liberal enemy #1.
Oh I think I'm going to fill that role, They are intimidated and feel threatened by my intellectual superiority. The vicious attacks I've taken by the right-wing on these forums is a testament to that fact. I say Bring em' On 
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