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http://www.natfront.com/
This is Britain's answer to the Nazi's. They are practically a neo-nazi extreme-right wing party, with their core beliefs being white supremacy, ethic degregation and seems the ideal perfect party for that Leath poster here.
I will give you the links to some of the more alarming pages. They are renowned for their shaven heads, leather jackets and yob-like marches. Hehe, believe me, they get beaten senseless wherever they go.
http://www.natfront.com/prejudic.html <-- must read, to appreciate the shock this is an official party lol. It is entitled, the truth about the negro  .
http://www.natfront.com/nfsop.html
http://www.natfront.com/1pstate.html
There is one article though which could make you think. I have ony browsed it, but if someone else analysed it you would see some valid points as why Britain is in it's position now with the EU. This is not due to the BNF, and the racist points and ethnic minorities are clearly their own targets for blame. True nationalism I doubt you can find even in the US i'm sure hehe =P.
http://www.natfront.com/consp.html
Pass your own judgement  .Last edited on Mon Jul 11th, 2005 04:54 am by British and proud
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Posted: Mon Jul 11th, 2005 06:45 am |
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What they their reply was to my questions aha.
From : National Front <national_front@hotmail.com>
Sent : 11 July 2005 01:35:25
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Hello
this will not be the answer ytou ae looking for however.
We receive thousands of communications a year asking specific questions and the simple answer is we do not have the time to reply to them all
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>From: "Iain Nicholls" <iain_once_more@hotmail.com>
>To: national_front@hotmail.com
>Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 03:52:33 +0100
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>Hi, I have read the content on your website, and much of your
>opinions are well based and logical, i.e. the halting of
>immigration, democracy by the rich for the rich, British history and
>inheritance and ethnicity etc. However I have some questions that if
>it is not too much trouble, would appreciate your feedback on.
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>First off, I was wondering, collectively, what the party thinks
>about all of the British subjects or people overseas from former
>territories of the British Empire who love the mother country and
>fought alongside British Whites in battles of the 20th century, such
>as in WWI or WWII, and the great campaigns of the 19th century. What
>are your thoughts of those colonial soldiers grandchildren or great
>grandchildren, who live in Britain today and who like living in
>Britain and do not commit crime or fraud, but are pride themselves
>in living in what was once the greatest nation on earth?, as did
>their ancestors. Didn't their forefathers earn the right for their
>family to be able to live in Britain by fighting for the country
>that they wished they could be a part of, at the risk of their own
>lives? These people shared in British history, doesn't that make
>them at least a small part entitled to share our heritage?
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>Also, the website focuses a lot on crimes committed by ethnic
>minorities on Whites, which of course are all tragic instances.
>However I am sure that many Whites commit crimes on ethnic
>minorities, so this doesn't show how these ethnic minorities are the
>villains of our society, and trust me I should know, but it does
>show that multi-cultural communities face a growing problem, which
>by only halting immigration will communities be able to stabilise
>and integrate into a society that works. Showing how many Whites are
>murdered by ethnic-minorities doesn't make for a political solution,
>unless there is a balanced argument, as I have provided. Otherwise
>people will recieve it as racist. By showing this balanced argument
>there is no basis for it to be deemed racist.
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>And finally, I would like to see the experiments carried out which
>show different average IQ levels in ethnic groups, such as how many
>subjects were tested on, if it was a fair test, what was the actual
>IQ test like etc. I am not saying the results are unjust, I would
>just like to see some more in-depth information about the tests.
>
>I hope to hear from you sometime in the not to distant future what
>your answers are,
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>good bye.
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>Iain N.
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British and proud wrote: http://www.natfront.com/
This is Britain's answer to the Nazi's. They are practically a neo-nazi extreme-right wing party, with their core beliefs being white supremacy, ethic degregation and seems the ideal perfect party for that Leath poster here.
I will give you the links to some of the more alarming pages. They are renowned for their shaven heads, leather jackets and yob-like marches. Hehe, believe me, they get beaten senseless wherever they go.
http://www.natfront.com/prejudic.html <-- must read, to appreciate the shock this is an official party lol. It is entitled, the truth about the negro .
http://www.natfront.com/nfsop.html
http://www.natfront.com/1pstate.html
There is one article though which could make you think. I have ony browsed it, but if someone else analysed it you would see some valid points as why Britain is in it's position now with the EU. This is not due to the BNF, and the racist points and ethnic minorities are clearly their own targets for blame. True nationalism I doubt you can find even in the US i'm sure hehe =P.
http://www.natfront.com/consp.html
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Posted: Sun Aug 7th, 2005 01:15 am |
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Just so you know, Minnie
the British National Front HATES jews and Israel
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B&P, whats your take on the B.N.P.?
(thats a serious question. Its just a coincidence that it rhymes.)
Is there much of a difference between the two, do you know?Last edited on Sun Aug 7th, 2005 02:31 am by yoshimi
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ATTAburnsinHELL wrote: Just so you know, Minnie
the British National Front HATES jews and Israel
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Posted: Sun Aug 7th, 2005 03:39 am |
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| I guess this is similar to the "front national" in France, with Le Pen
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Posted: Sun Aug 7th, 2005 07:33 am |
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| ...and they think America is racist
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Posted: Sun Aug 7th, 2005 01:08 pm |
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Reglisse wrote:
I guess this is similar to the "front national" in France, with Le Pen
Pretty much.
Though the roots of Le Pen's party largely lie in the Pétainists and the collaborateurs of Vichy. The worst lot.
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If these people must exist, why don't they ever go after the corporations first? But no! They take a quick verbal stab at the powermongers, then fall for the scapegoat routine and spew their real hate against people of other religions, ethnicities, or gender. It's all the immigrants' fault, oh yes! Minorities are taking over, oh no! And then they start yapping about a race war. Hate to tell these poor, angry little shave-heads, but if a race war ever went global, we, the melanin-challenged, will lose. It's a matter of numerical superiority so overwhelming that even I can do the math!
If one of you British National Front members ever reads this, listen up:
I have more in common with an Islamic Indonesian factory worker than I do with Laura Bush.
Why? Because the Islamic Indonesian and I have worked in a factory, and Laura Bush has not.
The way that these massive, powerful corporations you claim to be against keep people from challenging their power is to divide them along religious, ethnic, and gender lines. And it seems to be working, sad to say.
In Alabama, before the Civil Rights movement, unions tried to organize workers. Conditions were bad, and pay was low. It should have been easy enough. But the wealthy and the powerful started spreading racial hatred and dividing the community along racial lines. They succeeded. To this day, Alabama is still rife with racial tension, and is still one of the least union friendly states in the nation. Wages are still low, and working conditions still aren't on a par with those in northern manufacturing facilities. And it's like that all over the south.
And if everyone except people who look like you leave, then what? You'll be after the Jews, or the Catholics, or the left-handed redheads. Because all you know how to do is chase scapegoats. Go after the real problem, why don't you? The ones who actually have the guns, the money, the power, the police and the politicians in their pockets.
Oh, I know why you won't focus all your attention on the ones holding your leash: Because you're scared. Immigrants make easy targets, compared to CEOs of corrupt companies and their corrupt politicians.
Cowards.
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Korner wrote:
...and they think America is racist
You do know that the BNP get's bottled and beaten up when they are stupid enough to say their a member, don't you?
And yoshimi, my take is that the BNP will never be taken seriously by more than 0.02% of the population.
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British and proud wrote:
Korner wrote:
...and they think America is racist
You do know that the BNP get's bottled and beaten up when they are stupid enough to say their a member, don't you?
And yoshimi, my take is that the BNP will never be taken seriously by more than 0.02% of the population.
Of course, I did call them cowards, so I'm not one to rise above it all, and I do understand the itch to clout them between the eyes, believe me, I do, but...doesn't beating them up just make them madder and more self-pitying than they were before?
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Ralounews wrote:
British and proud wrote:
Korner wrote:
...and they think America is racist
You do know that the BNP get's bottled and beaten up when they are stupid enough to say their a member, don't you?
And yoshimi, my take is that the BNP will never be taken seriously by more than 0.02% of the population.
Of course, I did call them cowards, so I'm not one to rise above it all, and I do understand the itch to clout them between the eyes, believe me, I do, but...doesn't beating them up just make them madder and more self-pitying than they were before?
Maybe it shows them they are fighting for a cause the British public strongly disagree with, including their own 'White native' population.
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British and proud wrote:
Ralounews wrote:
British and proud wrote:
Korner wrote:
...and they think America is racist
You do know that the BNP get's bottled and beaten up when they are stupid enough to say their a member, don't you?
And yoshimi, my take is that the BNP will never be taken seriously by more than 0.02% of the population.
Of course, I did call them cowards, so I'm not one to rise above it all, and I do understand the itch to clout them between the eyes, believe me, I do, but...doesn't beating them up just make them madder and more self-pitying than they were before?
Maybe it shows them they are fighting for a cause the British public strongly disagree with, including their own 'White native' population.
What I've found in France is that many FN voters never say they vote Le Pen. People pay a heavy price for publicly saying their Front national voters. This isn't a very good thing - when people can't be open about their beliefs it creates a poisonous atmosphere of suspicion and distrust. In many cities and areas, the FN hardly even needs to run a campaign and they still rack up at least 20% of the vote.
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Back in 1986, I went to London to meet my girlfriend at the time. I stayed at a small hotel near King's Cross
While waiting a few days for her arrival, I got to meet some skinheads who also lived at the hotel.
being an American hardcore punk skin, they seemed friendly to me, though i was pretty much a-political. I was doing an article for a magazine and they started feeding me interviews and info
They took me to a store called "The Last resort' where skinheads would buy their "gear"- Doc Martin steel tipped boots, Fred Perry wear, braces, cromby coat, bomber jackets etc
I got to meet this guy named Ian, a lead singer for a band called Skrewdriver
He kept asking me what my national "bloodline" was. I told him Scots-irish. He figured that meant I was Protestant Irish and that put me in their good graces. They hated irish catholics and the IRA
I went back to their "flat' for an interview. Before we talked, he and about 12 other skinheads put on a video of "Cabaret" (?) on the telly. Odd choice, I thought- a Liza Minelli movie
They fast fowarded it to the part where the young German at the beerhall starts singing "Tomorrow Belongs to Me", where they pull back and reveil the kid is a Nazi Brownshirt, with his hand seig hieling.
I turn around and see every skinhead in the room standing and sieg hieling to the TV!
Yikes!
I politely finished my interview and got the hell out of there fast
Later that day my girlfriend showed up. She was Latino, Swedish and American indian. They took one look at her and suddenly turned cold toward me.
I realized we were in a bad place, checked out of the hotel pronto and made our way to another hotel on the other side of town
Thats my National Front Skinhead story
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Nice story ATTA, I don't have one concerning me personally, but my mother has told me a story involving her and national front march where she lived (Slough).
Basically, the shops where she lived had been bought by asians, and were all run by asians. The national front came to her area (Manor Park) and marched down the street to smash up the asian-owned shops.
Well, there are a lot of asians in Manor Park, and dark skinned people, and they came up against the front marchers and a huge fight insued, with my mother, at the time a little girl, caught in the middle of it with my grand father!
I don't remember who came out on top, but Manor Park's shops are still run by asians, and there are still a lot of immigrants there.
This was in the 1970's.Last edited on Sun Aug 7th, 2005 07:11 pm by British and proud
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British and proud wrote:
Ralounews wrote:
British and proud wrote:
Korner wrote:
...and they think America is racist
You do know that the BNP get's bottled and beaten up when they are stupid enough to say their a member, don't you?
And yoshimi, my take is that the BNP will never be taken seriously by more than 0.02% of the population.
Of course, I did call them cowards, so I'm not one to rise above it all, and I do understand the itch to clout them between the eyes, believe me, I do, but...doesn't beating them up just make them madder and more self-pitying than they were before?
Maybe it shows them they are fighting for a cause the British public strongly disagree with, including their own 'White native' population. ]
I don't think people should approve or pretend to approve of these ideologies, or should fail to show disapproval, but I don't think violence against the violent (except in self defense or the defense of those around you) is a good way to cut down on skinhead recruiting. Blessed if I can think of a good way, maybe someone else can, it's just...if I believe something, even if it's utterly wrong and stupid, and you come and beat me up for believing it, how likely am I to stop believing it because you hit me? I'm probably going to believe it more than ever, because I have paid for that belief in blood, and will be even less likely to let reality tap me on the noggin! Isn't that just how people are?
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