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Posted: Wed Nov 1st, 2006 05:40 pm |
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A round-the-clock international news channel France is to launch in December will challenge the "Anglo-Saxon" views spread by market leaders BBC and CNN by relying on "French values", the network's chief said.
France 24, as the network is called, will start broadcasting in English and French on the Internet on December 6 and then via satellite two days later, its chairman and chief executive, Alain de Pouzilhac, told Le Figaro newspaper.
Like its British and US rivals, it is homing in on "opinion leaders" around the world by dishing up a diet of news, features and discussion.
But those viewers, Pouzilhac claimed, have become increasingly "sceptical of the world vision offered by the Anglo-Saxons like BBC World and CNN International."
Instead, he asserted, they "are looking for contradictory opinions -- which is what France 24 is proposing by relying on French values."
He did not define what those values were in the interview, beyond saying that the channel would highlight "diversity (and)... confrontation, without forgetting the culture and French art of living."
Financed to the tune of 80 million euros (100 million dollars) a year by the state and run as a joint operation between France's top commercial and top public national TV networks, France 24 will start out as a minnow to the BBC or CNN, both of which have built up global networks and enjoy established reputations.
BBC World, the privately financed international arm of Britain's public broadcaster, has 250 staff and an undisclosed budget. CNN's US and international divisions employ 4,000 people and revenues of 860 million dollars (730 million euros).
Additionally, other players are entering the market, most notably the Arab network Al-Jazeera, which is to start broadcasting an English-language service from mid-November.
But Pouzilhac insisted there was room for the French channel.
"From its launch, France 24 will potentially reach 250 million individuals," and will be pumped into 500 hotels in 64 countries, he said.
It will be offered throughout Europe, Africa and the Middle East and in the US cities of New York and Washington. Later, it plans to extend its broadcasts to all of North and South America and to Asia.
Staffed by 380 people -- including 170 bilingual journalists -- it will be relying in part on video footage and reporting provided by its managing companies, the TF1 private network and the state-owned France Televisions, as well as from partner organisations such as AFP and Radio France Internationale.
France 24 was conceived years ago as a pet project of President Jacques Chirac, who in February 2002 called for a "big international news channel in French able to rival the BBC and CNN."
The US-led invasion of Iraq pushed the project forward, because Chirac was reportedly miffed by the way CNN and the BBC presented France's opposition to the war.
Some reports in US media inaccurately stating that "Paris is burning" during the 2005 riots around France also nettled his government.
Chirac has said he hoped the channel would place France "at the forefront of the global battle of images".
The European Commission gave the green light to the French channel in June, but media commentators have highlighted internal problems in the company caused by forcing TF1 and France Televisions -- aggressive competitors in the national market -- to work together.
The head of France Televisions, Patrick de Carolis, had unsuccessfully lobbied to have TF1 jettisoned from the project, and relations between the two remain frosty.
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Posted: Wed Nov 1st, 2006 06:10 pm |
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KAOSKTRL schreef:
THEY HAVE CHOOSEN SIDES AND THEY HAVE CHOOSEN ISLAM
Nonsense.
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Hughmac
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Posted: Wed Nov 1st, 2006 06:14 pm |
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zonnebloem wrote:
KAOSKTRL schreef:
THEY HAVE CHOOSEN SIDES AND THEY HAVE CHOOSEN ISLAM
Nonsense.
What is wrong with wanting to promote your language? Didn't the Americans recently complain bitterly because somebody dared to sing the US National Anthem in Spanish?
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Posted: Wed Nov 1st, 2006 06:22 pm |
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Hughmac schreef: zonnebloem wrote:
KAOSKTRL schreef:
THEY HAVE CHOOSEN SIDES AND THEY HAVE CHOOSEN ISLAM
Nonsense.
What is wrong with wanting to promote your language? Didn't the Americans recently complain bitterly because somebody dared to sing the US National Anthem in Spanish?
I was refering to the commentary of OP in all caps.... I'd be very interested in a French news channel with the French take on things, certainly if it's in English (for the practical reason I don't speak French).
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Posted: Wed Nov 1st, 2006 06:29 pm |
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French TV news is about as good as American or British - just as much bullsh^t with the occasional "oh, that was interesting" piece thrown in.
One shouldn't forget that its funded by the state so it will amount to being the mouthpiece of the French government.
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Hughmac
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Posted: Wed Nov 1st, 2006 07:17 pm |
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zonnebloem wrote:
Hughmac schreef: zonnebloem wrote:
KAOSKTRL schreef:
THEY HAVE CHOOSEN SIDES AND THEY HAVE CHOOSEN ISLAM
Nonsense.
What is wrong with wanting to promote your language? Didn't the Americans recently complain bitterly because somebody dared to sing the US National Anthem in Spanish?
I was refering to the commentary of OP in all caps.... I'd be very interested in a French news channel with the French take on things, certainly if it's in English (for the practical reason I don't speak French).
I was referring to his comment as well, sorry I hit the wrong quote box
My French is minimal, but at least in written form I can get the gist of it.
Cheers
Hughmac
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Posted: Wed Nov 1st, 2006 09:41 pm |
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| The article is wrong. BBC World Service does not have an undisclosed revenue stream, if you go the BBC annual report for 05/06 they had a total income of 260.5m pounds(no idea on how to make the symbol)
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Posted: Thu Nov 2nd, 2006 02:50 am |
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zonnebloem wrote: KAOSKTRL schreef:
THEY HAVE CHOOSEN SIDES AND THEY HAVE CHOOSEN ISLAM
Nonsense.
Yeah isnt it.
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Posted: Thu Nov 2nd, 2006 05:11 am |
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The whole concept of news is to report the news not spread a "vision" so their whole launching platform is somewhat immature.
Having said that I think the French are lacking in world news reporting and I would rather enjoy being able to tune into a major French network for news in English to gain their perspective on things.
I watch Al-Jazeera every night on satellite and I especially enjoy their "balanced" panels often which is comprised of a host and two speakers, one who thinks Israel should die today the other one that they should die sometime next Thursday. Either way its important for people to see news from around the world to gauge opinion.
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Posted: Thu Nov 2nd, 2006 09:01 am |
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News sources are like jigsaw puzzles: you need many just to get the beginnings of a complete picture.
Where's the copyright symbol???? (© Hughmac)  Last edited on Thu Nov 2nd, 2006 09:02 am by Hughmac
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British Max
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Posted: Thu Nov 2nd, 2006 11:05 am |
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| I'm not sure why French views would necessarily be "contradictory" to "anglo saxon" ones. Anyway, I'm not anglo saxon, I'm english. My gene pool is a function of rape and pillage by many nations, including the French.
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Posted: Thu Nov 2nd, 2006 11:16 am |
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When I tell the French, especially youngins, that "Anglo-Saxon" is basically a French concept, they give me a blank stare. I don't know how many times I've told people that the Irish, Welsh and (to a good extent), Scots are not Anglo-Saxon. Let alone the English - but to little use.
Even worse, French acquaintences always complain about the officiating at the Six Nations Cup, saying that except for Italy, the Four Anglo-Saxon countries all help each other out at the expense of the French.
The French love concepts and the Anglo-Saxon concept is a sort of general paradigm to apply to all the countries of (predominantly) white people who speak English.
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Posted: Thu Nov 2nd, 2006 08:55 pm |
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Hot Tub wrote: When I tell the French, especially youngins, that "Anglo-Saxon" is basically a French concept, they give me a blank stare. I don't know how many times I've told people that the Irish, Welsh and (to a good extent), Scots are not Anglo-Saxon. Let alone the English - but to little use.
Even worse, French acquaintences always complain about the officiating at the Six Nations Cup, saying that except for Italy, the Four Anglo-Saxon countries all help each other out at the expense of the French.
The French love concepts and the Anglo-Saxon concept is a sort of general paradigm to apply to all the countries of (predominantly) white people who speak English.
Anglo-Celtic is a far more accurate term. Though that stil ignores the Norman and Viking contributions to the gene pool of the British Isles and their colonial offshoots.
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British Max
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Posted: Fri Nov 3rd, 2006 09:21 am |
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| There is no Celtic gene. Its been proven.
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Posted: Fri Nov 3rd, 2006 10:38 am |
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British Max wrote: There is no Celtic gene. Its been proven.
Then what are the Irish comprised of? Fairyfloss?
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Posted: Fri Nov 3rd, 2006 01:19 pm |
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Well, its moreso a matter of how many generations the Gaelic-speaking peoples had been separated from their Germanic cousins.
In fact, the whole theory of hordes of Indo-Europeans invading continental Europe circa 3,000 BC is in doubt. Rather, it is more correct to think of a slow process of transfusion & acculturation stemming from an original heartland either in Anatolia or northern shores of the Black Sea.
It may well be, though, that the later arrivals (Indo-Europeans) were the fair-haired, freckled, red-headed & blond/blue-eyed types as opposed to the brownish-hair, brown-eyed types who are thought to have been the "original" neolithic inhabitants of continental EUrope & the British Isles. But any physical features would of course be the result of corporal adaptations to natural environments.
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Posted: Fri Nov 3rd, 2006 01:39 pm |
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One of the worst things I read when it comes to heritage and such, is when someone writes "German" instrad of "Germanic", when it comes to these ancient tribes. Just had to mention this. I AM NOT GERMAN!!! ![[mad]](/forums/themes/default/madani.gif)
Some morons have tried to claim that the Germans have Norse ancestry too. 
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British Max
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Posted: Fri Nov 3rd, 2006 02:01 pm |
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shazzboy wrote: British Max wrote: There is no Celtic gene. Its been proven.
Then what are the Irish comprised of? Fairyfloss?
No, something more earthy and widely available. 
I'm afraid its true. You are just a mix as the English ha ha ha.(maniacal laugh)
In fact you are the same genes as the English ha ha ha.(maniacal laugh).
No what I mean is that whilst there is common ancestery for a group of people, it is not as though it was a seperate race like the picts or the angles etc. the common ancestry has brought in certain group specific gene idiosyncracies but the source of the original Celts was just.......the English ha ha ha.(maniacal laugh). Well, probably somebody else as England, Scotland or Ireland didnt actually exist then.
http://www.orkneyjar.com/history/vikingorkney/genetics.htm
The link above is one source of info to support this though from an eric-the-viking type of way
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British Max
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Posted: Fri Nov 3rd, 2006 02:15 pm |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/1256894.stm
Suck it up Brit....or Spaniard, you choose though I can guess which one Pedro
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,2765-1247765,00.html
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Hughmac
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Posted: Fri Nov 3rd, 2006 02:28 pm |
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British Max wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/1256894.stm
Suck it up Brit....or Spaniard, you choose though I can guess which one Pedro
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,2765-1247765,00.html
Oh Dear... this is not going to please our mate Collins at all.
Very interesting, Mr Max, why don't you post the second one on the History Board, where I am sure that it will be just as appreciated?
Cheers
Hughmac
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