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I got offer from Sidenor, Spain - want to clear the VISA Process
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It's good you found Perspectives.com.. many people are fooled into providing personal details and cash via western union to get a bogus working visa.. Please warn your Ourplace- facebook & real friends about this Spamster job application..

Kind regards..

Joe Public (JP)

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thanks JP, but i would like thm to spend money on calling my number so i've doing their stated correspondence and will stop responding as they say me to deposit or transfer the money. i like to spend some bucks of these bastards.

neways thanx a lot and suggest me sum good job in ur country also....

take care dude

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pankaj_parihar wrote: thanks JP, but i would like thm to spend money on calling my number so i've doing their stated correspondence and will stop responding as they say me to deposit or transfer the money. i like to spend some bucks of these bastards.

neways thanx a lot and suggest me sum good job in ur country also....

take care dude
You can do this but be careful!!!, play it smart & try to get them convinced your stupid & willing to pay them even more.. contact your national Internet Police or even your local police force & perhaps they will trace the call for you & even have these dirty Spammers arrested.. (They are using a PRE-PAY mobile telephone but it can still be located & tapped) Goodluck & dont forget to share your wisdom..

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The good thing is that all pre-paid mobile numbers are now traceable. You can't buy one for cash without showing your ID card, and, of course, if you pay by card, you are instantly traceable. These guys are using Spanish prepaid, no?

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Hughmac wrote: The good thing is that all pre-paid mobile numbers are now traceable. You can't buy one for cash without showing your ID card, and, of course, if you pay by card, you are instantly traceable. These guys are using Spanish prepaid, no?

Cheers
Hughmac
Hello Hughmac..:cool: This ID showing to buy a mobile must only be in Spain..? its not this way in Holland.. but yes.. Pre-pay mobiles can be located and tapped.. and criminals still think they are safe to use.. Western Union is a problem.. they can collect money from an account from any office in any country.. thats why they use this banking system.. PayPal (Ex-SpamPal) used to be a problem.. but I stuck a fork in this companies backside a couple of years ago and turned them over.. they are done with working with spammers for some strange reason..[eyeroll]

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In Spain, before the Madrid Train Blasts, if you had a pre-paid telephone, paying for it in cash and bought recharge cards in cash, you could be completely anonymous. However, because of that terrorist attack you cannot purchase a pre-paid number with giving your full details. Those that already had such numbers had until a certain date to send in their details to the telephone companies. Those that didn't had their phone service terminated.

Cheers and be baaaad, Bro;)
Hughmac

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Hughmac wrote: In Spain, before the Madrid Train Blasts, if you had a pre-paid telephone, paying for it in cash and bought recharge cards in cash, you could be completely anonymous. However, because of that terrorist attack you cannot purchase a pre-paid number with giving your full details. Those that already had such numbers had until a certain date to send in their details to the telephone companies. Those that didn't had their phone service terminated.

Cheers and be baaaad, Bro;)
Hughmac
That was a terrible moment in Spanish history.. but I can fully understand the logic to the Spanish rule of law concerning mobile telephones..

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Almost 20'000 views to this topic on Perspectives.com.. Thats a lot of saved/informed potential victims of this Spamster's Job application fraud..:shock:

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Dear Sir/Madam

1.  I am approaching your kind assistance as how to get refund my EURO 1230, which I have already send WESTERN UNION MONEY for visa processing fees as demanding vide their "APPOINTMENT LETTER"  from Corporacion Sidenor Expana,  20 days ago.    (I am enclosing the appointment letter as appendix to this this letter hereunder).

2.  The details of Beneficiary Name/address & other correspondences are as under:-
Total EURO = 1,230 ONLY.
THROUGH WESTERN UNION MONEY  BENEFICIARY NAME   :  HOLMES BOBBY SENDER NAME           :  HARKA DHOJ RAI LOCATION/ADDRESS :  PASEO DE RECOLETOS 20-22, 28071 MADRID, SPAIN. MTCN NO.                   

3.   Notwithstanding the above I regularly communicating with the following Numbers and personals, as they are giving me a due assurances of  refund of  my above amount....!  I would be highly grateful for your personal indulgences in this matter, I how can I get refund of my amount.  Your immediate suggestion/guidelines shall meet my requirement to refund my amount. 

(a)  Engr. J. P. KIM
Employee Relations
CORPORACIÓN Sidenor
Spain
(b)  European Union Immigration Experts
Name: Mrs. Ana Maria Lopez

4.   Apologizing.   As I was not aware of this helpline earlier!
With warm regards.
Yours Faithfully

harka

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    Head office CORPORACIÓN Sidenor Oil Espana

    Barrio Ugarte s/n ES-48970, Basauri,Spain

     

JOB REFERENCE NUMBER : CS-ESPANA/2017/200947/1026/ES  
                                    DATED: 31st August, 09
 

SOFT COPY OF OFFICIAL LETTER OF APPOINTMENT

 
POSITION REFERENCE: Mr. Harka Dhoj Rai
 
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
 

        We have in file, your Resume, Job Application and other important data. After the evaluation of these documents, we found you qualified to work with our Team


     Hence, Corporacion Sidenor - Spain. Seek to employ your services as an expatriate consultant for the provision of expatriate services as stipulated in the following acts in this document. This document embodies the approved Terms for the purpose of this contract.

 
  1. JOB TITLE/UNIT
     

  Maintenance Engineer

 

CONTRACT DURATION: 24 MONTHS, (Renewable)

 

1.1     SCOPE OF WORK SHALL INCLUDE, BUT NOT LIMITED TO:

 
Appropriate monitoring/coordination services, planning and implementation, development, execution, responsible for the approval and purchases as shall be deemed necessary for job success.
 
Comprehensive infrastructure /management, policies initiation and approval of corrective actions, including regulatory agencies representatives, decisions making, changes incorporation when necessary.
 
Quality assurance, Quality control, corporate liaison work with one or more project team, or steering committee, senior managers and other key influences, possession and maintenance of outgoing and incoming policy and operations manuals.
 
Also include services related to project control system, services related to process control and electrical equipment and addition of 500mw gas turbine generating plant.
Services based on switchgear, short down and start-up of power transformers, combined and simple Cycle configuration, trouble- shooting, commissioning, maintenance and spare-holding services.
 
You shall also be expected to meet/liaise with the entire management board of Corporacion Sidenor - Spain. For overview and updates bi-monthly.
 
2.0 CONSULTING PERSONNEL
 
       You shall be expected to work lead a team of prime experienced project personnel’s with the mandate to provide excellent services.
 
3.0  JOB LOCATION:   VALENCIA - SPAIN (NEW SITE)
                     
 
4.0   MONTHLT SALARY INDICATION
 
        You will be eligible to receive US$11,500 (Eleven Thousand Five Hundred United States Dollars) –Basic (After tax) Monthly. US$700.00 (Seven Hundred Dollars) Weekly Allowance.
 
RESUMPTION DATE:      30th SEPTEMBER 2009
 
Salary can be transferred to any Bank designated by you and this must be in conformity with the present tax situation of the Country.
 
        Work time shall be 40 hours work week for the Twelve (24) month contract term as such employee shall also be entitled to over-time allowance if employee work time exceeds the official stipulated hours. Salary shall also be liable to increments with time and employees' official promotions and position in service.
 
5.0   ALLOWANCES/ ENTITLEMENTS
       
Hazard/Inconveniences: US$560.00 (Monthly)
Car Maintenance:  US$1,089.00 (Monthly)
House & Furnishings:  US$9,980.00 (Yearly)
 
Entertainment & Recreation: US$575.00 (Monthly)
Travel & Events: US$950.00 (Monthly)
 
6.0   GRANTS & LOANS
        Old Hem Housing Loan: 1-year service to Corporacion Sidenor - Spain.
 
        Is required for eligibility.
        Starter’s amount will be US$48,971.00  
        Can be re-paid within 10years with US$0.00 interest.
        Lieu Car Loan: All Employees are eligible to apply.
        Starter’s amount will be US$22,045.00
        Can be re-paid within 5years with US$0.00 interest.
        New Orleans Business Loans: All Employees are eligible to apply.
        Starter’s amount will be US$35,000.00 to US$70,000.00
       Contact the Accounts Department for more details.
 
7.0    PAID LEAVE PERIOD/ TRAVEL
 
              All Employees are entitled to 2months Paid Leave which can be taken once at a time or 2weeks apart one different period.
All Employees will receive US$5,880.00 Take home for each leave Period.
Employer for each Inter-continental trip shall be paid US$3,520.00 flat rate travel/entertainment allowance to employee. Travel shall be by business class/first class flight, or otherwise if necessary.
 
     However for the purpose of commencement, the cost of travel ticket shall be paid in addition to travel/entertainment allowance.
Cost shall be substantiated and shall be the rate charged at the Period/time of purchase. Employer shall also take care of employees' travel ticket including that of employees' family only on employees' early notification to employer and as shall be requested by employee.
 
8.0 EXPENSES BEFORE TRAVEL BY EMPLOYEES
 
Expenses made/incurred by the employee related to job before commencement of duties or Expenses made during Travel Plans, Processing of Travel Particulars ETC will be substantiated with receipts and Employer will re-imburse the Employee not later than Five (5) working days after submission of Employee’s expense Report and Receipts as proofs of such Expenses.
 
Employer however agrees to reimburse fully all Travel costs and Expenses made by Employee. The agreement hereby binds Employer and Employee in that re
-imbursements will be made fully to Employees upon presentation of Expense Reports and Receipts of Expenses.
                         
 
                          NON EUROPEAN CANDIDATES:
 
 It is our official policy that our  employees must pay for their work permit processing fees, as we have promised free visa to all employees and as a proof of her readiness to join our team, they have to contact the EUROPEAN UNION IMMIGRATION EXPERTS SPAIN and obtain these documents.
 
The agreement hereby binds Employer and Employee in that re-imbursements will be made fully to Employees upon presentation of Expense Reports and Receipts of Expenses
 
9.0  UPFRONT PAYMENT OF SALARIES
        The first monthly salary shall be paid in advance before Candidates embark on journey to assume duty.  This is to enable candidates settle all domestic needs before travel.  As such no excuses will be entertained on assumption of duty relating to default.
 
         Employees (Expatriates) are to note that 1MONTH UPFRONT SALARIES are paid as soon as Employees Procure and Process the relevant Resident/ Work Permit Documents from the EUROPEAN UNION IMMIGRATION EXPERTS SPAIN and submit same to the Human Resources Department for Verification.
 
All payment of Salary after assumption of duty in SPAIN shall be 75% paid into an offshore account to be provided by employee with the remaining 25% paid locally in SPAIN, if accepted by the employee.
 
This is in line with the Madrid Expatriate Financial Statutory Laws.
 
10.0   BENEFITS/ACCOMODATION
 
       All Employees are expected to reside at the Company’s Staff estate.
        There are 3 Bedroom Flat Duplex.
        Toyotal Camry 2007 Model Brand New, for employees use during contract.
        Dietary options, Customized cooks and Dieticians are available options.
        Incase of local dishes, we have Chefs from various countries to handle such.
 
 
11.0   MEDICAL EXPENSES
 
Employer will provide the employee with comprehensive Health care for the term of contract, and follow-on care for injuries suffered during the term of contract for employee and family.
 
12.0  OFFICE ASSETS TO BE PROVIDED BY EMPLOYER
 
Computer resources: Laptop Computer, 1.6 GHz Processor, 256 MB RAM, 24XCD-RW, 30GB Hard Drive, Floppy Drive, Integrated Network Adapter, Internal 56K
Modem, Spare Battery and Necessary Software. Full time Internet access is also made available.
  Phones:  Employer will provide each employee with one (1) landline and one (1) mobile    telephone. This shall have a reasonable credit limit application per month.
 
13.0   SAFETY & SECURITY
 
         Safety and Security of personnel (Local/Foreign) and Facilities on Job Locations and communities are no small issues, and have been seriously considered to ensure and assure hitch free operations.
 
All operations on Job Location are designed to adhere strictly to the Health Safety and Environment (HSE) Policy as applicable in the Oil and Gas Sector.
 
All expatriates are entitled to a free and mandatory safety courses on Job Locations to be delivered by qualified safety and environment experts.
 
All safety wears shall be provided by the Company at Job Locations such like Safety Coveralls, Gloves, Goggles, Helmet and Safety Shoes etc. as applicable in the Oil & Gas Sector.
 
14.0     TELECOMMUNICATION/ INTERNET FACILITIES
 
            There are standard Telecommunication Facilities and Internet services at the disposal of all expatriates, and same shall be accessible to all Personnel (Local/Foreign) without any charge or expenses to be incurred.
 
Cellular Phones can be obtained by expatriates from the Local dealers/Service
Providers in Work Metropolis but must be used in accordance with the safety regulations on Job Locations.
 
15.0    ADDITIONAL SERVICES
          Recreational/Sports Facilities shall also be made available at the disposal of all expatriates with no expenses to be incurred. Laundry and Dry Cleaning Service will also be made available to all Expatriates by the company's laundry and dry cleaning unit.
 
16.0    DOCUMENTS PROCESSING WORK/RESIDENCE PERMIT VISA.
The Employee is requested to contact the below office who shall be responsible for the process or his or her Valid Spanish Work/Residence Permit
Visa and then should forward it to the HR of Corporation Sidenor – Spain for Verification and authenticity confirmation.
 
Hence any expenses incurred during this process shall be refunded to the candidate after 5 working days of payment.
 
THE Iscar- Valladolid (Madrid- España)
 
Note that all Spanish based employees' are to report personally to our office with identification materials for signing and collection of hard copy of their contract documents.
This is in line with the expatriate statuary law of the European Union in compliance with the EU. Terrorism Act. Find attached for other necessary related details of job.
Congratulations on your success,
 
 
SIGNED…………….
 
EMPLOYEE RELATIONS OFFICER.
CORPORATION SIDENOR - SPAIN                                         
 
EMPLOYEE SIGN: ………………………………………………………………….
 
MOBILE: ………………………………………………………………………………
 
ADDRESS: ……………………………………………………………………………..
 
PASSPORT NUMBER: ………………………………………………………………


Phone #s etc. deleted. Rules

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My Dear Harka,

I dont want to demoralize you but whatever i know about western union is this, that any body could encash your money from any where in the world. So, it's not at all possible as per me that you could regain your money. But dont give up and raise the said matter with Spanish Embassy in your country and try your best. May be you wont get your money back but many you can save the amount of others very well. And also contact Western Union Office and tell them the whole thing... contact those bastards via phone and try to seek help from local embassy and grab these bastards by phone servillience.

This is all I can suggest you.

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"Thanks,
Indeed  I am already informing this facts to Spain Embassy very soon.

regards

harka

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harka dhoj wrote: "Thanks,
Indeed  I am already informing this facts to Spain Embassy very soon.

regards

harka

It is critical that if you gave personal details away to these Spammers like your 'Passport' photocopy details, it would be very wise to change your Passport immediately and report this to your local Police.. Identity fraud is a problem associated with this employment scam/spam.

Kind regards,

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1st. This letter sent to you is badly written English & not in Spanish. The tel. number is a MOBILE Pre-Pay number & no Spanish company uses this communication to conduct business. No Spanish company will deal with working visa/permits for its employees or ask for any finance to do this. They have asked that you transfer your personal details & a sum of money.. This is pure 100% fraud. NEVER pass personal details via the INTERNET.

2nd. If you have given any details or already sent your hard earned savings, I must ask you to accept that this was a bad move. Contact your Passport office.. Contact your local police & send an email to your Spanish Embassy within your country & if you gave away your banking details? change your bank account TODAY..

Do not contact these Spamsters..

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Please do not post these spammers contact numbers anymore here.. This info is 100% false & these people do not exist. CONTACT your own local police. ask for a police report. Send an email to the Embassy of Spain in your country and mention your police report number. Very little else can be done personally by yourself other than follow the other details I have posted above concerning your personal integrity.

Kind regards,

Joe

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Mr JP Sir,

Thanks, for your kind suggestion.  I am doing my best to this change all my particulars legally to avoid future inconveniences.


sincerely yours

harka

 

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harka dhoj wrote: Mr JP Sir,

Thanks, for your kind suggestion.  I am doing my best to this change all my particulars legally to avoid future inconveniences.


sincerely yours

harka

 

Your more than welcome dear Harka, and I can only hope that you inform others within your personal network of friends concerning this unscrupulous Internet crime by these Spamsters..

Kind regards,

Joe Public

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