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Tsalagi1
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Posted: Mon May 19th, 2008 03:17 pm |
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longbich wrote: RationalMan agreed: You are correct, I thought about their commonality after the edit thingie expired.  It is strange being congratulated for being correct for what an Aussie would seem like such an every day bit of knowledge as to not even be woth mentioning. Like being told you are correct when you say that the white slice of bread is white. Mmmm well done longbich. Good detecting skills.
and suggested :Seems like you could rig up a warmer under a cloth bag though, some cool night, for them to crawl into maybe? Now this may have merit RationalMan. I will think about it but will try the more passive methods first. I would still have to close the bag and carry it to ......somewhere faaaaar awaaaay and then release them ....mmmm?
Release them?..If they aren't on any endangered lists.snake makes good eating 
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12Plus1
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Posted: Mon May 19th, 2008 09:57 pm |
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Maybe you can't kill them because they are endangered, but another snake can. Research what harmless snakes feed on them and then release the harmless snakes near them. After a while, there will be no poisonous snakes around your house.
This is an old trick that farmers used to do to ensure their house was free of poisonous snakes. In fact, a common nickname for the corn snake (If I'm correct) was the "farmer's friend".
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longbich
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Posted: Tue May 20th, 2008 12:10 am |
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12Plus1 wrote: Maybe you can't kill them because they are endangered, but another snake can. Research what harmless snakes feed on them and then release the harmless snakes near them. After a while, there will be no poisonous snakes around your house.
This is an old trick that farmers used to do to ensure their house was free of poisonous snakes. In fact, a common nickname for the corn snake (If I'm correct) was the "farmer's friend".
This is the problem 12+1. The Red Bellied Black actually IS the snake that kills and eats other more dangerous ones. It (they...there are at least 3 of them at last count) probably will not kill an adult but would make you very ill for a while. It would be able to kill my Staffy or a small kid and this is not an option. They have to go.
Tsalagi1 encouraged longbich to extend his diet :Release them?..If they aren't on any endangered lists.snake makes good eating
They are not on the endangered list but they are protected. I prefer eel to snake.
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RationalMan
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Posted: Tue May 20th, 2008 07:57 am |
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Mongoose. 
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RationalMan
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Posted: Tue May 20th, 2008 07:58 am |
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longbich wrote: RationalMan agreed: You are correct, I thought about their commonality after the edit thingie expired. It is strange being congratulated for being correct for what an Aussie would seem like such an every day bit of knowledge as to not even be woth mentioning. Like being told you are correct when you say that the white slice of bread is white. Mmmm well done longbich. Good detecting skills.
and suggested :Seems like you could rig up a warmer under a cloth bag though, some cool night, for them to crawl into maybe? Now this may have merit RationalMan. I will think about it but will try the more passive methods first. I would still have to close the bag and carry it to ......somewhere faaaaar awaaaay and then release them ....mmmm?
Um, you sound a bit insulting in the first part. Clarify.
As for the second, there is this new invention. Perhaps you've heard about it waaaay down there.
It's called "String".
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Posted: Tue May 20th, 2008 09:39 am |
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RationalMan wrote: longbich wrote: RationalMan agreed: You are correct, I thought about their commonality after the edit thingie expired. It is strange being congratulated for being correct for what an Aussie would seem like such an every day bit of knowledge as to not even be woth mentioning. Like being told you are correct when you say that the white slice of bread is white. Mmmm well done longbich. Good detecting skills.
and suggested :Seems like you could rig up a warmer under a cloth bag though, some cool night, for them to crawl into maybe? Now this may have merit RationalMan. I will think about it but will try the more passive methods first. I would still have to close the bag and carry it to ......somewhere faaaaar awaaaay and then release them ....mmmm?
Um, you sound a bit insulting in the first part. Clarify. No insult intended RationalMan. Aussies are often more abrupt, blunt and to the point than Americans. I just found it weird that you would tell me that I was correct about something that an Aussie would merely accept as common or garden variety knowledge. I did not need to be told that I was correct, geddit?
As for the second, there is this new invention. Perhaps you've heard about it waaaay down there.
It's called "String". Yep but with snakes who are not exactly still creatures you still have to hold the writhing, struggling, hissing bag up while you loop and tie the , what was it, that new fangled "string" stuff around the bag's mouth and then do it again in reverse where you let the lil poisonous, fang-mouthed critters go.
Anyway the mothballs and their wafting smell are in place and tomorrow I will check to see if the varmints have taken their leave.Last edited on Tue May 20th, 2008 09:40 am by longbich
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Posted: Tue May 20th, 2008 09:49 am |
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longbich wrote: No insult intended RationalMan. Aussies are often more abrupt, blunt and to the point than Americans. I just found it weird that you would tell me that I was correct about something that an Aussie would merely accept as common or garden variety knowledge. I did not need to be told that I was correct, geddit?
So what, I should have said "Oh yes, quite right."? Sorry, we yanks tend to be upfront as well.
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Yep but with snakes who are not exactly still creatures you still have to hold the writhing, struggling, hissing bag up while you loop and tie the , what was it, that new fangled "string" stuff around the bag's mouth and then do it again in reverse where you let the lil poisonous, fang-mouthed critters go.
Quite still once the bag cools off.
Well, I tried to help. You're being a pain. Luck with your beasties.
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Posted: Tue May 20th, 2008 12:08 pm |
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So what, I should have said "Oh yes, quite right."? Sorry, we yanks tend to be upfront as well. That's fine. I have found all the input valuable. I will get back to this if anything works RationalMan and everyone.
Quite still once the bag cools off. And I will maybe rig up a bag to try and tempt them into a warmer place like you mentioned. They really should be beginning to semi-hibernate at this cool time of the year so a nice warm bag may do the trick.
Well, I tried to help. Thank you it was all good. You're being a pain. Huh? Luck with your beasties. Thanks again.
I hope something works here.
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Posted: Wed Mar 18th, 2009 08:41 am |
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Tomorrow is the Equinox and Autumn begins. A whole summer with not one glimpse of a snake in my yard.
I am not sure but after I laid down some weed killer, "Roundup" all the grass died and the snakes did not turn up to warm themselves under the electricity meter.
It could have been a combination of all the hints I was given what with the mothballs and all but at least the damned snakes seem to have disappeared. And no Tsalagi1 I did not eat them.
I didn't mean to be a pain either RationalMan. Maybe I was a tad worried back then.
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longbich wrote: EmperorNortonII wrote: Failing that, get some hard alcohol and spray it on them. Rum has long been used as a tool for getting animals that have bitten down onto a person to let go right quick. Maybe spraying/sloshing it on them/around them will get them to scurry off.
As soon as they leave, pour some concrete down. If it closes holes/escape ways, it might get them to stay away.
I will try with the petrol (gasoline) EmperorNortonII and will add this to my list of snake chasing products. Wasting good rum on reptiles seems a tad drastic. Maybe I will use that to celebrate with after I have succeeded with one of the methods advised.
Have you considered getting a pet mongoose?
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Posted: Fri Mar 20th, 2009 03:55 am |
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Oops my bad
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Posted: Fri Mar 20th, 2009 08:50 pm |
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A 0.220" hole about an inch behind the head works for me.
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Posted: Fri Mar 20th, 2009 09:25 pm |
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Pound wrote: Is there no OZ variant of the King Snake?
If you mean the type of snake which eats other snakes Pound then the answer is yes we do have these in OZ. The trouble is that the snakes in my yard were those kind of snakes. Red-bellied Black snakes eat other snakes and are venomous. They aren't the constricting type like a python.
But at least the emphasis is on "were" now after they all seem to have gone.
We don't have mongooses freely available in OZ Mychosis. Anyway once the mongoose had done its job what was I gunna feed it on....more snakes?
Shooting protected animals is against the law here in Australia. Shooting in a built up neighbourhood is also against the law. Owning a firearm unless you are a registered range shooter or hunter/farmer is also against the law Omar Johnson. I don't even know anyone around who owns a rifle or gun apart from cops.
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Posted: Sat Mar 21st, 2009 02:50 am |
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longbich wrote: We don't have mongooses freely available in OZ Mychosis.
You could probably import one from India
Anyway once the mongoose had done its job what was I gunna feed it on....more snakes?
You could "rent" it out to others who have similar snake issues and make some scrilla, yo!
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Posted: Sat Mar 21st, 2009 04:27 am |
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Mychosis wrote: longbich wrote: We don't have mongooses freely available in OZ Mychosis.
You could probably import one from India
Anyway once the mongoose had done its job what was I gunna feed it on....more snakes?
You could "rent" it out to others who have similar snake issues and make some scrilla, yo!
longbich thought"This is it. Mychosis has given me a sure fire recession proof money earner" I was even gonna go so far as to make it "The Mychosis Mongoose Co. Ltd." (with permission of course. But then I looked it up...damn bureacrats are way ahead of any scheme for making me rich.
Some countries have rules and some countries have lotsa rules but India had none. India wasn't even listed in the long, long list of countries where you could import animals from to Australia. The one statement said that if a country was not on the long, long list then there was just no way any fauna could be imported at all, ever, no way Jose. No "Renta-Mongoose Reptile Ridder" money producer for longbich, tsk, tsk.
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Posted: Sat Mar 21st, 2009 05:21 am |
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longbich wrote: Mychosis wrote: longbich wrote: We don't have mongooses freely available in OZ Mychosis.
You could probably import one from India
Anyway once the mongoose had done its job what was I gunna feed it on....more snakes?
You could "rent" it out to others who have similar snake issues and make some scrilla, yo!
longbich thought"This is it. Mychosis has given me a sure fire recession proof money earner" I was even gonna go so far as to make it "The Mychosis Mongoose Co. Ltd." (with permission of course. But then I looked it up...damn bureacrats are way ahead of any scheme for making me rich.
Some countries have rules and some countries have lotsa rules but India had none. India wasn't even listed in the long, long list of countries where you could import animals from to Australia. The one statement said that if a country was not on the long, long list then there was just no way any fauna could be imported at all, ever, no way Jose. No "Renta-Mongoose Reptile Ridder" money producer for longbich, tsk, tsk.
Oh well..I kinda figured that with Australia dealing with so many unwanted non indigenous species that have been introduced there, that procuring a mongoose would have it's challenges.
India may be a bust, however there are thirty species of mongoose and can be found in Africa, Asia and get this....Southern Europe!
They are also found in the Caribbean Islands and Hawaii.
However, I question whether the non Indian mongooses are as adept at snake removal..but they have been domesticated and have great pest control applications..they seem to eat most anything alive that is smaller than them
(rodents, insects, crabs, eggs, small fowl and even carrion)
So you would not have to worry about running out of snakes.
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Posted: Sat Mar 21st, 2009 05:25 am |
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So this is your boy here...
The Small Asia Mongoose..even King Cobra's are afraid of this little fella!
This species occurs naturally throughout most of southern mainland Asia, from Iraq to China, as well as on the island of Java, at altitudes up to 2200 m. It has also been introduced to dozens of islands in the Pacific and Caribbean, and a few in the Indian Ocean and Mediterranean, as well as to mainland Venezuela. It is capable of living among fairly dense human populations.
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Posted: Sat Mar 21st, 2009 06:33 am |
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Those Mongoose guys are sure cute but you are right Mychosis "I kinda figured that with Australia dealing with so many unwanted non indigenous species that have been introduced there" Australia probably does not need another voracious predator like the mongoose. The current plague is a Cane Toad which has been devastaing the local fauna but here has been rabbits, goats, cats and feral pigs thay have done horrendous damage to our native animals. A cactus was also a terrible thing which was actually introduced (like the toad) to fix another problem and then proceded to become an even bigger one.
The mongoose would be wiping out more stuff than even that amazingly efficient hunter, the feral cat. Probably not a good idea.
Hey that was interesting but I am just happy that my snake family have buggered off so who cares about my dreams of entrepreneurial riches as motivated by Mychosis.
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Posted: Sat Mar 21st, 2009 06:41 am |
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Yeah, well after further research I discovered that they are indeed efficient,,,so efficient that they have resulted in multiple extinctions of reptiles in places they were introduced to...in fact, it is even illegal to have them here in the US 
Oh well
I know about the Cane Toads, nasty little buggers
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