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tirabase
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Posted: Wed Jun 10th, 2009 11:20 pm |
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I am a contractor and a friend of mine in a contractor. He was quoted a price from a salesman for a gas fireplace and it was really high. I was helping him with the job so I said lets go down and talk to the manager to see if we can get a better price. I have known the manager for many years and had at one time done a lot of contracting for this company. I have also bought over 100 fireplaces from them and sent a lot of business their way. We went down to the place yesterday and the manager was not there, we said we would come back and talk to the manager, they said we could take the gas fireplace so we did.
Today we went in to talk to the manager and he was with a vendor, we talked to him briefly and he said he would call us later. A few hour later he called me yelling at me asking me what gave me the right to tell a customer i could get him a better price. I told him I was working with this contractor and we were only trying to see if he could give us a better price. He kept repeating the question, I told him to tone it down. He called me an A-hole, I said I will be down to talk to him about this in a few minutes.
When I got there I went to his office. I asked him very calmly what was going on. He continued to ask me in anger what gave me the right to tell a customer I could get him a better price. I kept telling him I didn't tell him that. I said what gives you the right to call me an A-hole. He said because you are an A-hole. My temper flared and I said If you are going to insult me, lets take this outside. He said no, and right behind me this older guy in his late 50's who is a salesman for the company( I'm 40 yes, I do know better) says I will go outside and I am going to kick your A**. I thought he was kidding I kind of chucked and I said okay. I got up out of my chair and he said come on lets go I'm gonna kick your A**. I said, old man I will use your A** to sweep the parking lot. The manager stepped in front of me so I stopped. The older guy kept egging it on and calling me out. I came to my senses and decided to walk away. As I'm walking away he is screaming how he is going to send me away in an ambulance. This is not a typical thing that I do. I am usually very calm, but being insulted like that for no reason and the other stresses I'm under sent me over the edge.
I know I did not use the best judgement myself but I felt this was a very unjust situation. What can I do? Any advice?
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Tsalagi1
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Posted: Thu Jun 11th, 2009 02:36 am |
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tirabase wrote: I am a contractor and a friend of mine in a contractor. He was quoted a price from a salesman for a gas fireplace and it was really high. I was helping him with the job so I said lets go down and talk to the manager to see if we can get a better price. I have known the manager for many years and had at one time done a lot of contracting for this company. I have also bought over 100 fireplaces from them and sent a lot of business their way. We went down to the place yesterday and the manager was not there, we said we would come back and talk to the manager, they said we could take the gas fireplace so we did.
Today we went in to talk to the manager and he was with a vendor, we talked to him briefly and he said he would call us later. A few hour later he called me yelling at me asking me what gave me the right to tell a customer i could get him a better price. I told him I was working with this contractor and we were only trying to see if he could give us a better price. He kept repeating the question, I told him to tone it down. He called me an A-hole, I said I will be down to talk to him about this in a few minutes.
When I got there I went to his office. I asked him very calmly what was going on. He continued to ask me in anger what gave me the right to tell a customer I could get him a better price. I kept telling him I didn't tell him that. I said what gives you the right to call me an A-hole. He said because you are an A-hole. My temper flared and I said If you are going to insult me, lets take this outside. He said no, and right behind me this older guy in his late 50's who is a salesman for the company( I'm 40 yes, I do know better) says I will go outside and I am going to kick your A**. I thought he was kidding I kind of chucked and I said okay. I got up out of my chair and he said come on lets go I'm gonna kick your A**. I said, old man I will use your A** to sweep the parking lot. The manager stepped in front of me so I stopped. The older guy kept egging it on and calling me out. I came to my senses and decided to walk away. As I'm walking away he is screaming how he is going to send me away in an ambulance. This is not a typical thing that I do. I am usually very calm, but being insulted like that for no reason and the other stresses I'm under sent me over the edge.
I know I did not use the best judgement myself but I felt this was a very unjust situation. What can I do? Any advice?
You're a better man then me...seeing as how he started it, I would beat his ass, then spit in his face as I walked away. Then I would have told the Manager, "You brought this on yourself..oh..by the way, I'll be giving all my business to your nearest competitor"
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tirabase
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Posted: Thu Jun 11th, 2009 04:14 pm |
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Tsalagi1 wrote: tirabase wrote: I am a contractor and a friend of mine in a contractor. He was quoted a price from a salesman for a gas fireplace and it was really high. I was helping him with the job so I said lets go down and talk to the manager to see if we can get a better price. I have known the manager for many years and had at one time done a lot of contracting for this company. I have also bought over 100 fireplaces from them and sent a lot of business their way. We went down to the place yesterday and the manager was not there, we said we would come back and talk to the manager, they said we could take the gas fireplace so we did.
Today we went in to talk to the manager and he was with a vendor, we talked to him briefly and he said he would call us later. A few hour later he called me yelling at me asking me what gave me the right to tell a customer i could get him a better price. I told him I was working with this contractor and we were only trying to see if he could give us a better price. He kept repeating the question, I told him to tone it down. He called me an A-hole, I said I will be down to talk to him about this in a few minutes.
When I got there I went to his office. I asked him very calmly what was going on. He continued to ask me in anger what gave me the right to tell a customer I could get him a better price. I kept telling him I didn't tell him that. I said what gives you the right to call me an A-hole. He said because you are an A-hole. My temper flared and I said If you are going to insult me, lets take this outside. He said no, and right behind me this older guy in his late 50's who is a salesman for the company( I'm 40 yes, I do know better) says I will go outside and I am going to kick your A**. I thought he was kidding I kind of chucked and I said okay. I got up out of my chair and he said come on lets go I'm gonna kick your A**. I said, old man I will use your A** to sweep the parking lot. The manager stepped in front of me so I stopped. The older guy kept egging it on and calling me out. I came to my senses and decided to walk away. As I'm walking away he is screaming how he is going to send me away in an ambulance. This is not a typical thing that I do. I am usually very calm, but being insulted like that for no reason and the other stresses I'm under sent me over the edge.
I know I did not use the best judgement myself but I felt this was a very unjust situation. What can I do? Any advice?
You're a better man then me...seeing as how he started it, I would beat his ass, then spit in his face as I walked away. Then I would have told the Manager, "You brought this on yourself..oh..by the way, I'll be giving all my business to your nearest competitor" That was my first instinct. However as a young man I have had legal issues of my own dealing with situations in that manner. I thought I had an handle on my temper and was suprised and disappointed I allowed myself to be sucked in to that situation. I probably should have let him hit me a few times and then gone to my lawyers office.
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Tsalagi1
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Posted: Thu Jun 11th, 2009 09:02 pm |
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tirabase wrote: Tsalagi1 wrote: tirabase wrote: I am a contractor and a friend of mine in a contractor. He was quoted a price from a salesman for a gas fireplace and it was really high. I was helping him with the job so I said lets go down and talk to the manager to see if we can get a better price. I have known the manager for many years and had at one time done a lot of contracting for this company. I have also bought over 100 fireplaces from them and sent a lot of business their way. We went down to the place yesterday and the manager was not there, we said we would come back and talk to the manager, they said we could take the gas fireplace so we did.
Today we went in to talk to the manager and he was with a vendor, we talked to him briefly and he said he would call us later. A few hour later he called me yelling at me asking me what gave me the right to tell a customer i could get him a better price. I told him I was working with this contractor and we were only trying to see if he could give us a better price. He kept repeating the question, I told him to tone it down. He called me an A-hole, I said I will be down to talk to him about this in a few minutes.
When I got there I went to his office. I asked him very calmly what was going on. He continued to ask me in anger what gave me the right to tell a customer I could get him a better price. I kept telling him I didn't tell him that. I said what gives you the right to call me an A-hole. He said because you are an A-hole. My temper flared and I said If you are going to insult me, lets take this outside. He said no, and right behind me this older guy in his late 50's who is a salesman for the company( I'm 40 yes, I do know better) says I will go outside and I am going to kick your A**. I thought he was kidding I kind of chucked and I said okay. I got up out of my chair and he said come on lets go I'm gonna kick your A**. I said, old man I will use your A** to sweep the parking lot. The manager stepped in front of me so I stopped. The older guy kept egging it on and calling me out. I came to my senses and decided to walk away. As I'm walking away he is screaming how he is going to send me away in an ambulance. This is not a typical thing that I do. I am usually very calm, but being insulted like that for no reason and the other stresses I'm under sent me over the edge.
I know I did not use the best judgement myself but I felt this was a very unjust situation. What can I do? Any advice?
You're a better man then me...seeing as how he started it, I would beat his ass, then spit in his face as I walked away. Then I would have told the Manager, "You brought this on yourself..oh..by the way, I'll be giving all my business to your nearest competitor" That was my first instinct. However as a young man I have had legal issues of my own dealing with situations in that manner. I thought I had an handle on my temper and was suprised and disappointed I allowed myself to be sucked in to that situation. I probably should have let him hit me a few times and then gone to my lawyers office.
Hit him in the pocket..inform him that due to his complete lack of professionalism in dealing with someone with whom he has had a long - standing business relationship, he has just lost your business, and you'll be acquiring the business of his nearest competitor.
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Posted: Fri Jun 12th, 2009 10:28 pm |
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What is the business?
If there is a corporate headquarters to this store then I would contact them immediately!
That would be a first step. Trust me they are not going to be happy to hear your story.
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ATTAburnsinHELL
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Posted: Sat Jun 13th, 2009 04:05 pm |
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I say get over it. Talk is cheap. If the guy is older than you, one punch could give him a heart attack and you'll end up sued or worse
Let him hit you, call the cops and press assault charges on him then sue his ass
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Gomer Pyle
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Posted: Sat Jun 13th, 2009 06:36 pm |
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I am a contractor and a friend of mine in a contractor. He was quoted a price from a salesman for a gas fireplace and it was really high. I was helping him with the job so I said lets go down and talk to the manager to see if we can get a better price. I have known the manager for many years and had at one time done a lot of contracting for this company. I have also bought over 100 fireplaces from them and sent a lot of business their way. We went down to the place yesterday and the manager was not there, we said we would come back and talk to the manager, they said we could take the gas fireplace so we did.
The price was not really high. You were just enjoying the benefit of a huge discount because of your past relationship with this Company. Your contractor friend might be a friend of your but he has no history with this Company. He does not deserve the huge discount that you get.
How would you feel if a Convicted Felon Criminal that is now Homeless demand the same right and access to your home as a Friend that you know since you were 10 years old? Would you allow that Convicted Felon Criminal that is now Homeless the same previledges and freedom to your home as a Friend you know since you were 10 years old.
I know the analogy is on the extreme but I am trying to make a point.
Today we went in to talk to the manager and he was with a vendor, we talked to him briefly and he said he would call us later. A few hour later he called me yelling at me asking me what gave me the right to tell a customer i could get him a better price. I told him I was working with this contractor and we were only trying to see if he could give us a better price. He kept repeating the question, I told him to tone it down. He called me an A-hole, I said I will be down to talk to him about this in a few minutes.
He is right. You have no right to promise your friend a better price. However, you are not an A-hole. You just made a mistake.
But you have no right to promise your friend a better price.
How would you feel if your Friend that you know since 10 years old invite a Convicted Felon Criminal that is now Homeless into your home and give him all the priveledge and rights to your home that you give to your friend as a courtesy.
When I got there I went to his office. I asked him very calmly what was going on. He continued to ask me in anger what gave me the right to tell a customer I could get him a better price. I kept telling him I didn't tell him that. I said what gives you the right to call me an A-hole. He said because you are an A-hole. My temper flared and I said If you are going to insult me, lets take this outside.
You invited him to "lets take this outside." You initiated the act of Violence first.
Yes, I know that you were not able to discriminate the difference between the priviledge of a long time customer with a long history vs. a new customer and reacted in anger. But your initiation of violence start his threat of violence.
And keep in mind that he is not as bad as you think. He was willing to talk to you directly about the subject matter that bother him.
I have known others who would not even bother to communicates to you about what is bothering them and begin to cause you trouble and threat of violence.
In my opinion, this guy is not as bad as you think. He is not the best but not the worst.
That is my 2 cents in regard to this matter.
I gotta go. I think Sargent Carter is calling me. If I am late, he will make me scrub the floor with the toothbrush.
Gomer Pyle.
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Posted: Fri Jun 19th, 2009 11:46 am |
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| I must have read this wrong, I could swear he just said you were an a-hole. then you brought up the idea of taking it outside....when were you threatened? was it right after you wanted to take it outside?
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