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dc-2
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Posted: Fri Aug 7th, 2009 06:00 pm |
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Our board does not get a great deal of activity. And some of our posters have been Abrahamics who were contributing positively to a discussion, but were posting in violation of the current board rules.
One way to boost the activity level of this board would be to adopt the same sort of approach the Libertarian board does -- non-libertarians are allowed to post, so long as they do not criticize libertarianism, nor advocate an alterantive economic/political philosophy.
The current libertarian board policy is:
This board exists to discuss Libertarian issues. Not all posters need be doctrinaire libertarians. Non-doctrinaire-libertarians who restrict themselves to discussing APPROACHES to libertarianism as opposed to ALTERNATIVES to libertarianism on this board are welcome. Thank you.
A possible rewrite for our board would be:
This board exists to discuss non-Abrahamic religious issues. It is also a no-hostility board. Not all posters need be non-Abrahamic. Abrahamics who restrict themselves to positive comments and questions, and who do not post any advocacy for any Abrahamic faith, are welcome to contribute to the discussions on this board. Thank you.
I would like to see what our board membership thinks of our current non-abrahamic ban, this proposed change, and post alternative rules changes if you think a different change or phrasing would be in order.
I have opened a poll, and since some options may not be mutually exclusive, I allow multiple choices.
If we end up with a consensus on a rules change, then we can petition Admin.
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Tsalagi1
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Posted: Fri Aug 7th, 2009 06:15 pm |
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| No issues...as long as they're coming here to sate their curiousity, expand their knowledge, seek wisdom..etc.. Last edited on Fri Aug 7th, 2009 06:16 pm by Tsalagi1
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Tsalagi1
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Posted: Fri Aug 7th, 2009 06:16 pm |
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dc-2
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Posted: Fri Aug 7th, 2009 06:50 pm |
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Tsalagi1 wrote: No issues...as long as they're coming here to sate their curiousity, expand their knowledge, seek wisdom..etc..
Thanks for replying. Vote?
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Tsalagi1
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Posted: Fri Aug 7th, 2009 08:14 pm |
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dc-2 wrote: Tsalagi1 wrote: No issues...as long as they're coming here to sate their curiousity, expand their knowledge, seek wisdom..etc..
Thanks for replying. Vote?
Apparently I'm it...lol...let's face it, there aren't that many New Age believers, Pagans, etc. here on this website.
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notself
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Posted: Sat Aug 8th, 2009 03:52 am |
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dc-2,
I think your proposal is great. There may be quite a few people interested in New Age, Wiccan, Celtic religion that are currently following an Abrahamic religion. I have always been in favor of all people being allowed to ask questions about another's beliefs. Retaining the no hostility rule should make current members feel protected.
Go for it.
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dc-2
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Posted: Sun Aug 9th, 2009 11:46 pm |
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Three posts in favor, but only 2 votes? Polls usually run the other way, with more votes than posts.
We need more than three of us to request a rules change.
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tirabase
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Posted: Mon Aug 10th, 2009 02:20 am |
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| I think it is a great idea, I feel I would like to expand my knowledge plus I do have much to contrubute without pushing my religion on others and without feeling I am invading your area
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notself
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Posted: Mon Aug 10th, 2009 04:35 am |
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dc-2 wrote: Three posts in favor, but only 2 votes? Polls usually run the other way, with more votes than posts.
We need more than three of us to request a rules change.
Give it another week. This board is so slow, members do not often visit.
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zonnebloem
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Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2009 09:00 am |
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| I voted in favour of the proposition.
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eddie
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Posted: Wed Sep 2nd, 2009 11:05 pm |
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I don't visit this forum very often but I'd like to chime in on this. I don't have a problem with Abrahamic folks posting on this board provided they are not here to proselytize, disparage or disrupt the non-Abrahamic members of this board.
Also, if an Abrahamic member wishes to enter into a discussion in defense of their religion should a person start a thread challenging their particular religious beliefs, what would be considered acceptable behavior on the part of the Abrahamic and non-Abrahamic members involved?
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dc-2
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Posted: Fri Sep 4th, 2009 06:57 pm |
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eddie wrote: I don't visit this forum very often but I'd like to chime in on this. I don't have a problem with Abrahamic folks posting on this board provided they are not here to proselytize, disparage or disrupt the non-Abrahamic members of this board.
Also, if an Abrahamic member wishes to enter into a discussion in defense of their religion should a person start a thread challenging their particular religious beliefs, what would be considered acceptable behavior on the part of the Abrahamic and non-Abrahamic members involved?
Attacks on Abrahamic faiths are legitimate subjects for the non-Abrahamic board, and I do not think an abrahamic poster "defending" their faith would qualify as "restrict themselves to positive comments and questions, and who do not post any advocacy for any Abrahamic faith". Such a defense would be advocacy.
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EmperorNortonII
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Posted: Sun Sep 6th, 2009 06:02 pm |
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| I voted no. We already have a board for religious conversation between people of all religions. Abrahamics can screw off.
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dc-2
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Posted: Mon Sep 7th, 2009 04:32 am |
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EmperorNortonII wrote: I voted no. We already have a board for religious conversation between people of all religions. Abrahamics can screw off.
The differences between hostile and non-hostile forums seems to have escaped you.
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superwimp
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Posted: Mon Sep 7th, 2009 05:56 pm |
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Hello,
I voted B for a new proposal. Most of the Abrahamic religions believe life is sort of a pass/fail test and you only come here once. Many of the non Abrahamic religions believe life is a learning experience and believe in some variation of reincarnation. Perhaps we could make it a reincarnation/no life after death forum.
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dc-2
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Posted: Mon Sep 7th, 2009 10:01 pm |
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superwimp wrote: Hello,
I voted B for a new proposal. Most of the Abrahamic religions believe life is sort of a pass/fail test and you only come here once. Many of the non Abrahamic religions believe life is a learning experience and believe in some variation of reincarnation. Perhaps we could make it a reincarnation/no life after death forum.
Well notself would clarify that buddhists do NOT beleive in reincarnation, but only the transfer of soul energy.
And I don't know Zonnebloem's views on reincarnation -- reincarnation is not essentail for a pantheist.
And this board has a number of atheist posters, who are also generally not big fans of reincarnaton.
Several posters in the past have claimed that the low posting rate on this board is due to its too-broad mandate. Atheists would like to exclude all religious posters, wiccans want to exclude non-wiccans, etc.
If you think limiting the board to those who hold by reincarnation is the right way to modify its rules, suggest away.
My own suggestion was, I hoped, going to make it easier for both you and Tirabase to post here. He is a gnostic Christian, and you are a Edgar Cayce follower (mostly new age, but nominally christian?), and both have views that are probably more mainstream here than on the Abrahamics board.
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shadowwalker
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Posted: Tue Sep 8th, 2009 05:12 am |
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It’s been pretty dead in here for a while, I think what we should start doing is allow topless posting. Yeah, I know, sort of risqué and vulgar, and totally sexiest. But if it works in the real world.
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EmperorNortonII
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Posted: Tue Sep 8th, 2009 03:57 pm |
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dc-2 wrote: EmperorNortonII wrote: I voted no. We already have a board for religious conversation between people of all religions. Abrahamics can screw off.
The differences between hostile and non-hostile forums seems to have escaped you.
My interpretation has always been non-hostile to the other posters on the forum. That I have repeatedly gotten away with heavy swearing at right-wingers who post on the liberals only section in politics has reinforced that view.
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dc-2
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Posted: Tue Sep 8th, 2009 04:07 pm |
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EmperorNortonII wrote: dc-2 wrote: EmperorNortonII wrote: I voted no. We already have a board for religious conversation between people of all religions. Abrahamics can screw off.
The differences between hostile and non-hostile forums seems to have escaped you.
My interpretation has always been non-hostile to the other posters on the forum. That I have repeatedly gotten away with heavy swearing at right-wingers who post on the liberals only section in politics has reinforced that view.
Sorry for not being clear. I was responding to the earlier part of your post, now highlighed in red. We do not have a no-hostility forum for conversations between people of Abrahamic and non-Abrahamic views.
If the Abrahamics were to adopt the same rule change I propose for here, then non-Abrahamics would also be allowed to post on faith-/prayer under similar no-criticism/no-advocacy rules.
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EmperorNortonII
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Posted: Tue Sep 8th, 2009 04:12 pm |
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dc-2 wrote: EmperorNortonII wrote: dc-2 wrote: EmperorNortonII wrote: I voted no. We already have a board for religious conversation between people of all religions. Abrahamics can screw off.
The differences between hostile and non-hostile forums seems to have escaped you.
My interpretation has always been non-hostile to the other posters on the forum. That I have repeatedly gotten away with heavy swearing at right-wingers who post on the liberals only section in politics has reinforced that view.
Sorry for not being clear. I was responding to the earlier part of your post, now highlighed in red. We do not have a no-hostility forum for conversations between people of Abrahamic and non-Abrahamic views.
If the Abrahamics were to adopt the same rule change I propose for here, then non-Abrahamics would also be allowed to post on faith-/prayer under similar no-criticism/no-advocacy rules.
Ah.
At that point, why not just combine all of the non-hostility boards, and just have an Arena section or arguing, and another section for non-advocacy/non-criticism?
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