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red sox nation
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Posted: Mon Sep 28th, 2009 03:57 am |
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_more_school
Beautiful idea.
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jerrie
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Posted: Mon Sep 28th, 2009 04:35 am |
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share the road
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Posted: Wed Oct 14th, 2009 03:53 am |
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Personally, if I were a kid I would hate the idea, but there is a great article in Malcolm Gladwell's Outliers about how the effects of staying in school for longer periods of time affects different socio-economic groups. Supposedly over a long summer vacation rich kids' reading scores go up, while poor kids' reading scores go down. Creates an achievement gap early on that lasts throughout their education.
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dV/dt
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Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 04:16 pm |
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I also agree that a longer school year results in greater retainment of the subjects learned. The U.S. has embarrassingly low tests scores, compared to other industrialized nations. Many of these nations have school years with a much greater amount of school days/year.
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Mazel Schlimazel
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Posted: Sun Oct 18th, 2009 06:35 pm |
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Awesome. But it won't be enough to repair our broken schools. We also need more bottom-up (more local) incentives to improve on math scores, and make the curriculum flow a bit faster than usual.
It is usually not until junior high that American students begin to study algebra. Contrast this to other countries where children are 2-3, even 4 years ahead of our kids in their math skills.
Who says we can't catch up too?
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Mazel Schlimazel
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Posted: Sun Oct 18th, 2009 06:39 pm |
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Also, IMO, public schools aren't very conducive to learning, alot of the time. That's why having more locally-funded charter schools may be a good idea.
As for public schools, kids are often inundated with pop culture and precocious obsessions with adult clothing and sex symbols and not as interested in pursuing their academics as a result.
I only know this as a 21-year-old university student who spent 13 years in the public education system of WA state and can reflect on all the vulgarity, disobedience, and disregard for learning that was common among maybe 60-70% of the students.. (I took IB/AP in High School, so that kind of acted as a protective umbrella for me..)
Things need to change drastically to make our kids smarter and more eager, curious scholars and learners.
Last edited on Sun Oct 18th, 2009 06:41 pm by Mazel Schlimazel
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Mazel Schlimazel
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Posted: Sun Oct 18th, 2009 06:56 pm |
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American Schools: Where we Stand in the 21st Century:
http://perspectives.com/forums/view_topic.php?id=214876&forum_id=91
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TR1985
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Posted: Sun Oct 18th, 2009 07:02 pm |
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Americans are undisciplined. I remember a seventh grade math class wherein it was time to turn in homework and only half had done their homework. That wasn't rare, and that was a suburban school district. When I moved into honors math, that changed. However, we tolerate completely unacceptable behavior.
Really, we need to get our act together. This is one reason why many people send their kids to private school.
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Mazel Schlimazel
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Posted: Sun Oct 18th, 2009 07:06 pm |
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TR1985 wrote: Americans are undisciplined. I remember a seventh grade math class wherein it was time to turn in homework and only half had done their homework. That wasn't rare, and that was a suburban school district. When I moved into honors math, that changed. However, we tolerate completely unacceptable behavior.
Really, we need to get our act together. This is one reason why many people send their kids to private school.
And in my high school, there was a vast gulf in the attitude between the minority of students enrolled in IB/AP, versus those who took "normal" courses.
I mean, even kids with an average IQ, but ones from good families, would do everything possible to get into AP/IB classes- just to escape the apathy and rudeness towards learning that was prevalent in the non-honors classes...
Last edited on Sun Oct 18th, 2009 07:07 pm by Mazel Schlimazel
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DarkSoul1984
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Posted: Tue Oct 20th, 2009 04:36 pm |
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Having spent three years teaching in a school with a 10 month/year schedule of 7 am - 5pm everyday (last year they bumped it up to 6:30 pm but couldn't go any farther since it is ALWAYS dark in the Philippines by 6:30 pm), I am of the opinion that there is NOT a one size fits all solution for the problems we are having.
While this solution may work in certain school districts, it isn't going to work everywhere. Different students have different needs.
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