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Mailman Fred
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Posted: Fri Oct 9th, 2009 12:01 pm |
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Although many will pan this (the award hasn't exactly gone to the best people over the years), it was good news to hear that he won the Nobel Peace Prize this morning.
If you didn't think Obama has taken a BIG world leadership role before now, well then think again.
Now if he can just bitch slap Pelosi and Reid around a bit and get his house in order, then we'd really be off to the races.
That aside - a big congrats to our very, very good Democratic President. He is a very real leader and is the best thing going for this country.
Last edited on Fri Oct 9th, 2009 12:02 pm by Mailman Fred
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MustangSally
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Posted: Fri Oct 9th, 2009 03:31 pm |
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I was suprised, to say the least. 9 months into his first term? Unprecidented!
While I think the Nobel committee is rewarding more for potential than achievements, I do think this award is a reflection of the dire vacuum of diplomacy this country created with 8 years of the Cowboy Clown and his Careless Crusades in the Middle East. The world is so hungry for a real leader.
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Alias Emily 2
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Posted: Fri Oct 9th, 2009 06:16 pm |
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MustangSally wrote: I was suprised, to say the least. 9 months into his first term? Unprecidented!
While I think the Nobel committee is rewarding more for potential than achievements, I do think this award is a reflection of the dire vacuum of diplomacy this country created with 8 years of the Cowboy Clown and his Careless Crusades in the Middle East. The world is so hungry for a real leader.
I agree with you to some extent, but it is also tremendous affirmation that Obama is headed in the right direction. I am wondering if this will in any way affect his decision re Afghanistan.
I am thrilled with this award, it's a wake up call that the world is, as you say, hungry for good leadership.
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BuckFan
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Posted: Fri Oct 9th, 2009 06:49 pm |
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I think it is a distraction that he does not need. It will hurt him at home on his domestic agenda and will take the focus off his immediate issues like health care and the economy.
It is nice that he won it and validation for his approach to foreign policy but it should have been next year, not this year.
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BushFramedRogerRabbit
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Posted: Fri Oct 9th, 2009 09:57 pm |
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I think he needs to sort out western corporate exploitation in the Sudan before he gets any Nobel prizes.
http://perspectives.com/forums/view_topic.php?id=214197&forum_id=6
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TR1985
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Posted: Fri Oct 9th, 2009 10:25 pm |
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He needs to stop bombing the moon first!
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Madness in America
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Posted: Sat Oct 10th, 2009 12:36 am |
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BuckFan wrote: I think it is a distraction that he does not need. It will hurt him at home on his domestic agenda and will take the focus off his immediate issues like health care and the economy.
To assume this will be some sort of "distraction" also assumes that in the next 48-72 hours the average A-D-D challenged American will remember this event. Besides, I am pretty sure Obama can walk and chew gum, so I doubt he will lose his focus on health care or any other issue for that matter.
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BuckFan
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Posted: Sat Oct 10th, 2009 05:18 pm |
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Madness in America wrote: BuckFan wrote: I think it is a distraction that he does not need. It will hurt him at home on his domestic agenda and will take the focus off his immediate issues like health care and the economy.
To assume this will be some sort of "distraction" also assumes that in the next 48-72 hours the average A-D-D challenged American will remember this event. Besides, I am pretty sure Obama can walk and chew gum, so I doubt he will lose his focus on health care or any other issue for that matter.
Its not Obama's attention I'm worried about but the ADD addled media who bounce from one story to another. The administration finally has some traction on selling health care reform and this will bump it from the news for a couple of days. Can they get the momentum back?
It also gives the Right something more to attack him on. The American people have never reacted well to foreign praise or attention, in fact they react negatively. This will help the GOP and hurt Obama in opinion polls, again making it that much harder to sell the policy initiatives.
The simple fact that we are having this discussion versus whether we should back a bill lacking a true public option is proof of my point.
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Mailman Fred
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Posted: Tue Oct 13th, 2009 02:51 am |
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BuckFan wrote: I think it is a distraction that he does not need. It will hurt him at home on his domestic agenda and will take the focus off his immediate issues like health care and the economy.
It is nice that he won it and validation for his approach to foreign policy but it should have been next year, not this year.
Nah, I already forgot about this and I started the post.
Watched the news tonight and it barely came up.
Overall a net positive to the President and another thing to drive the Republicans and conservative nuts. I'll take it.
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dV/dt
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Posted: Tue Oct 13th, 2009 05:33 pm |
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Mailman Fred wrote: Although many will pan this (the award hasn't exactly gone to the best people over the years), it was good news to hear that he won the Nobel Peace Prize this morning.
If you didn't think Obama has taken a BIG world leadership role before now, well then think again.
Now if he can just bitch slap Pelosi and Reid around a bit and get his house in order, then we'd really be off to the races.
That aside - a big congrats to our very, very good Democratic President. He is a very real leader and is the best thing going for this country.
You were correct in predicting that many would "pan" the President's award --- no need to go any further than reading what the Righties on this site are saying!
But I am with you, a big congrats to President Obama and now if he could just get the Democrats in Congress to help him make real change here at home!
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dV/dt
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Posted: Tue Oct 13th, 2009 05:34 pm |
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MustangSally wrote: I was suprised, to say the least. 9 months into his first term? Unprecidented!
While I think the Nobel committee is rewarding more for potential than achievements, I do think this award is a reflection of the dire vacuum of diplomacy this country created with 8 years of the Cowboy Clown and his Careless Crusades in the Middle East. The world is so hungry for a real leader.
Excellent point, Sally! Couldn't agree more.
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