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Next apocalypse? Mayan year 2012 stirs doomsayers
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http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2009-10-10-2012-apocalypse_N.htm?csp=15

MEXICO CITY — Apolinario Chile Pixtun is tired of being bombarded with frantic questions about the Mayan calendar supposedly "running out" on Dec. 21, 2012. After all, it's not the end of the world.

Or is it?

Definitely not, the Mayan Indian elder insists. "I came back from England last year and, man, they had me fed up with this stuff."

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I foresee little or no problem with this, but the upcoming movie looks great. I was surprised by the scene in the upcoming movie where the aircraft John F. Kennedy is lifted by a giant tsunami directly into the White House.

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jerrie wrote: I foresee little or no problem with this, but the upcoming movie looks great. I was surprised by the scene in the upcoming movie where the aircraft John F. Kennedy is lifted by a giant tsunami directly into the White House.That looked pretty slick...

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 Posted: Sun Oct 11th, 2009 11:19 pm

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The Mayan calendar was right about alot of things.

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 Posted: Mon Oct 12th, 2009 12:22 am

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NewsJuNKY wrote: The Mayan calendar was right about alot of things.
Maybe so, but my plan is to keep my job & build wealth just IN CASE the world doesn't end in 3 years...

BTW - from the same article:

...but Bernal notes there are other inscriptions at Mayan sites for dates far beyond 2012 — including one that roughly translates into the year 4772.
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dem4life wrote: jerrie wrote: I foresee little or no problem with this, but the upcoming movie looks great. I was surprised by the scene in the upcoming movie where the aircraft John F. Kennedy is lifted by a giant tsunami directly into the White House.That looked pretty slick...

Wishful thinking.

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On 12/12/12, I will be 68...That would be a very dramatic way to check out...The world ending in togetherness...

 

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robert stout wrote: On 12/12/12, I will be 68...That would be a very dramatic way to check out...The world ending in togetherness...

 

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Then let me wish you Happy Birthday now - prolly won't have time on that date :P

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I often wonder with what date they will come up after 2012. Anyone know a good candidate for yet another date of doom?

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2048 "the binary apocalypse".  It could be the biggest crisis since y2k.

 [eyeroll]

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Wildkitten wrote: dem4life wrote: jerrie wrote: I foresee little or no problem with this, but the upcoming movie looks great. I was surprised by the scene in the upcoming movie where the aircraft John F. Kennedy is lifted by a giant tsunami directly into the White House.That looked pretty slick...

Wishful thinking.
For who?  You or me...

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nNeo schreef:
2048 "the binary apocalypse".  It could be the biggest crisis since y2k.

 [eyeroll]


Cool. That I didn't thought of that myself...

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zonnebloem wrote: nNeo schreef:
2048 "the binary apocalypse".  It could be the biggest crisis since y2k.

 [eyeroll]


Cool. That I didn't thought of that myself...

Jehovah's Witnesses

by Matthew Allen


"Now when He had spoken these things, while they watched, He was taken up, and a cloud received Him out of their sight" (Acts 1:9-10). From that time until the present, men have been anxiously awaiting the return of Jesus Christ. Throughout the centuries, some men have even tried to predict His second coming. Should we believe the predictions of when Christ will return? One thousand years ago as a new millennium approached, men were trying to predict the second coming of Jesus Christ. Stories of people destroying all of their earthly possessions, going out to the highest hill and awaiting the return of the Savior were common. All predictions were proven false.

Moving closer to our time, certain religious groups have made bold predictions even specifying the place, date, and time of return. For example, Jehovah’s Witnesses have made many such claims over the last one hundred thirty years:
  • 1889 - The 'battle of the great day of God Almighty' ... which will end in A.D. 1914 ... is already commenced. [Studies in the Scriptures, Vol. 2, The Time Is At Hand, 1889 ed., p. 101.]
  • 1904 - The stress of the great time of trouble will be on us soon, somewhere between 1910 and 1912 - culminating ... October 1914. [Studies in the Scriptures, Vol. 6, The New Creation, 1904 ed., p. 579]
  • 1914 - The great crisis, the great clash...is very near. Armageddon may begin next spring. [Watchtower Reprints, Vol. VI, May 1, 1914, p. 5450]
  • 1922 - The date 1925 is even more distinctly indicated by the Scriptures than 1914. (The previous date [1914] was proven to be false.) [Watchtower, Sept. 1, 1922, p. 262]
  • 1923 - Our thought is, that 1925 is definitely settled by the Scriptures. The Christian now has much more upon which to base his faith than Noah had upon which to base his faith in a coming deluge. [Watchtower, March 1, 1923, p. 106]
  • 1925 - The year 1925 is here. Many confidently expect that all members of the body of Christ will be changed into heavenly glory during this year … [Watchtower, Jan. 1, 1925, p. 3]
  • 1926 - Some anticipated that the work would end in 1925, but the Lord did not state so. The difficulty was that the friends inflated their imaginations beyond reason; and that when their imaginations burst asunder, they were inclined to throw away everything! [Watchtower, 1926, p. 232]
  • 1930 - The great climax is at hand. [J. F. Rutherford, Light, Vol. II, 1930, p. 327]
  • 1941 - Armageddon is surely near….soon….within a few years. [J. F. Rutherford, Children, 1941, p. 366]
  • 1946 - Armageddon….should come sometime before 1972. [They Have Found a Faith, p. 44]
  • 1969 - Within months, or at the most five years, the end of the world as we have known it will occur and a thousand year reign of Jesus will begin. [Marie H. Walling, Arizona Republic, August 24, 1969, "Witnesses give world five years at most".
 

 

I'm surprised the JW's haven't got in on this act as well this time around.

Mind you their dismal track record of (End of Times, The second Coming of Christ, Armageddon) failed predictions have rendered them into the league of Cultist/Religious Crackpots already.        

I guess they have finally figured out that 'put up or shut up' is the safer option than past embarressments.       [pray]      [cool]   

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I truly believe that that day is coming,the sign's are everywhere and have been for year's. There are too many terrible thing's going on in this old world to believe otherwise,but only the Good Lord know's for sure.

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In December 2012 there will be a very rare astronomical alignment. The Aztecs knew it as "Quetzalcoatl". Almost any Native American familiar with old traditions knows of the Feathered Serpent by one name or another.

http://2012wiki.com/index.php?title=Cherokee_Calendar

This rare alignment is associated with "Time-UnTime", and is linked to the Venus Transit cycle, which is prominently featured in virtually all Native American calendars and astronomy. "Transit" being the equivalent of Venus being the source for a solar eclipse. Except that, due to the distance involved, it is far too relatively "small" to actually eclipse the sun from our perspective. Hence, "transit".

This cycle occurs approximately every 121.5 yrs. And there's strong scientific evidence to suggest that 100 cycles ago, the earth experienced a dramatic climate change. Which may very well have resulted from a magnetic pole shift some time after ~10,500 BC.

http://www.aip.org/history/climate/rapid.htm

So, the Mayan calendar (as well as other Native American astrology), emphasizes this Venus Transit cycle... particularly in how it aligns with the Pleiades and the Sagitarius constellation and the Milky Way. Jupiter and the Orion constellation also figure into this alignment.

It is possible that this alignment has an effect on the solar wind's energy density with regard to the earth's exposure in that position. Depending upon a number of factors, that could act as a tipping point for a magnetic pole shift.

While it is almost certain that 10,500-10,000 BC humans would not have thought of these phenomena the way we do today, it is equally almost certain that they were completely aware of some physical aspects of these forces. Especially any significantly unusual astronomical signs in the skies. So that, without any need to scientifically grasp the details... the Mayans may have passed along enough of an oral tradition to eventually evolve into a mathematic projection of when the next such pole shift event was to occur. Based upon the astronomical positions that were present last time.

There is a very distinct scientific possibility that Native American timelines are very fact-based, and not just some "superstitious" primitive nonsense. But in case you want a second opinion, here's what NASA has to say about the subject:

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/10mar_stormwarning.htm

"History shows that big sunspot cycles 'ramp up' faster than small ones," he says. "I expect to see the first sunspots of the next cycle appear in late 2006 or 2007—and Solar Max to be underway by 2010 or 2011."

Who's right? Time will tell. Either way, a storm is coming.

"End" of the planet? No. A cataclysmic event in terms of present human technology and civilization? Well... I'll put it this way:

What do you think happens to satellites in orbit when the earth's magnetic polarity suddenly reverses? The international space station? Tectonic plate activity? Trans-oceanic telecommunications lines? Oceanic water displacement due to tectonic movement (tidal waves)? How about massive solar flare radiation blanketing the earth's micro-electronics?

Everyone does realise we just went through this big deal to get everyone off of analogue television broadcast/reception, right? That should work out well without satellites to transmit signals. So mostly no tv. No cellphones. Very spotty radio transmissions. Very questionable internet.

Should make for some really interesting holiday air traffic control.

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zonnebloem wrote: I often wonder with what date they will come up after 2012. Anyone know a good candidate for yet another date of doom?
Sure do zonnebloem.   CBS will celebrate the REAL 2020 on it's program 20-20. They will talk about how some Crazies predicted 2012 as the day the end would come. Sounds like a good date of Doom to me.

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Increased Solar flares from the sun are possible I would think.  Because of the possibility of the suns shifting magnetic fields. But I doubt much will come of all this, because I see no evidence of pending doom. Except perhaps a really good movie on this subject being released next week..:)

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the sky is falling bump

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dcbl wrote: the sky is falling bump


first we had the planetary alignment...next we have the Galactic alignment.

 

If you look it up it happens roughly every 26,000 years.

What happened 26,000 years ago...anyone care to dig that info up?

 

If you look at the galactic alignment you will find some very interesting photos of what is happening. Yep I am too lazy to post them photos for you. Before you all rant about what will happen try looking up the stuff first.


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