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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 07:42 am |
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The St.Jean Baptiste Society wants Prince Charles to apologize for what they call "cultural genocide" of the francophones. What cultural genocide are they talking about? The bloody province is just totally french. Quebec looks like it could be a part of France. Wheres the english? 
The french culture is thriving very well thanks in part to the British, who after the "Battle of the Plains of Abraham", allowed the french to keep their language and culture. Some gratitude. Maybe that was a big mistake. The Societe says that the Prince will only be welcome in Quebec if the Prince makes atones for the alleged sins of the British after their conquest of North America. Make atones to a people who were conquered as a result of a battle that they lost? Some gall, indeed. Maybe what we should do is send the military into the province and save the anglophones from quebec's racist policy towards the anglophones of that Province. After all, quebec is still a part of Canada and the anglophones do have rights, don't they?
The only reason that societies like the St. Jeans outfit can talk like they do is because Ottawa lacks the cahones(maybe because it is now french controlled)to tell quebec to stop with it's anti-anglophone policies or else Ottawa will stop supporting and handing over taxpayer's dollars from the rest of Canada and move all Federal government departments back to Canada. Less money and less jobs. That should make them shake in their boots. If they don't like it, well, then separate. Goodbye.
Another list of grievances include the deportation of the acadiens in 1755(hey, to the victors goes the spoils and they can do whatever they want to)and to the establishment of an english language majority in Canada. So, I guess that the British who just have happened to conquer quebec and settled the rest of Canada should have made french an official language throughout the rest of Canada. Sure.
Come'on, the gall of these francos is beyond belief. This is what happens when the majority try to butt kiss a minority, they get cheeky and they try to control the majority. Just wait until the other minorities in this country and the real multicultural program and agenda really kicks in. The fun is only just beginning people. Wakeup.
Other separatists have warned the Prince to stay away. The separatists should be warned to shut the hell up or else. The Societe says it will welcome the Prince to Quebec if he apologizes with open arms. They should welcome him with open arms and thank him and the British for allowing the french to keep their language and culture. But that will never happen, they think they won the battle and that Canada belongs to them and as things appear now, they are probably right to think so.
What is needed is some politician with the will to speak political incorrectness for a change rather than be like they always have been, good little boys and girls and sit back and continue to say nothing while anglophones rights are denied.
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stevecanuck
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 10:11 pm |
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If Quebec were to separate, they would lose the buffer that's keeping their language alive. That buffer is called official Canadian bi-lingualism.
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Mazel Schlimazel
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 10:28 pm |
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stevecanuck wrote: If Quebec were to separate, they would lose the buffer that's keeping their language alive.
Interesting..
You'd think it'd be the opposite, though..
If Quebec were to separate, they'd have complete jurisdiction about who can enter their country, and they could then have the Sovereign right to require learning French for all prospective immigrants to Quebec, as well as to enforce only French-speaking laws for TV airtime, commercials, at work and in schools (the same as France does with its department of french language-purity)...
It makes sense for Quebec to become a completely independent country, IMO... I'm not a Canadian, so I dont have a say in the matter (and rightfully so). But it seems like one huge headache for all the provinces to pay an improportionate amount for maintaining Quebec's uniqueness, and to buffer and subsidize the daycare programs and cultural customs of a single province...
Besides, Quebec was technically conquered by the British, and since the Canadian Crown is the legal successor to the British Crown, it seems that the Quebecois would only be elated to achieve full independence as a new Francophone Republic, independent of the old symbolic relic of British colonial rule. No?
Last edited on Thu Nov 5th, 2009 10:32 pm by Mazel Schlimazel
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stevecanuck
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 02:45 am |
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Mazel Schlimazel wrote: stevecanuck wrote: If Quebec were to separate, they would lose the buffer that's keeping their language alive.
Interesting..
You'd think it'd be the opposite, though..
If Quebec were to separate, they'd have complete jurisdiction about who can enter their country, and they could then have the Sovereign right to require learning French for all prospective immigrants to Quebec, as well as to enforce only French-speaking laws for TV airtime, commercials, at work and in schools (the same as France does with its department of french language-purity)...
It makes sense for Quebec to become a completely independent country, IMO... I'm not a Canadian, so I dont have a say in the matter (and rightfully so). But it seems like one huge headache for all the provinces to pay an improportionate amount for maintaining Quebec's uniqueness, and to buffer and subsidize the daycare programs and cultural customs of a single province...
Besides, Quebec was technically conquered by the British, and since the Canadian Crown is the legal successor to the British Crown, it seems that the Quebecois would only be elated to achieve full independence as a new Francophone Republic, independent of the old symbolic relic of British colonial rule. No?
They would have to trade with their 2 neighboring countries, Canada and the U.S. That reality would make English the necessary language of commerce. Currently they hold Canada hostage to their language/culture demands, but if they had to fend for themselves, they'd probably be surprised at how quickly the rest of North America would say, "Look, we don't speak French. If you want to talk to us, use English".
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stevecanuck
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 02:47 am |
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| Regarding the topic of this thread, Charles should agree to apologize after the French apologize to the Indians. Talk about cultural genocide.
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 04:32 am |
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stevecanuck wrote: Mazel Schlimazel wrote: stevecanuck wrote: If Quebec were to separate, they would lose the buffer that's keeping their language alive.
Interesting..
You'd think it'd be the opposite, though..
If Quebec were to separate, they'd have complete jurisdiction about who can enter their country, and they could then have the Sovereign right to require learning French for all prospective immigrants to Quebec, as well as to enforce only French-speaking laws for TV airtime, commercials, at work and in schools (the same as France does with its department of french language-purity)...
It makes sense for Quebec to become a completely independent country, IMO... I'm not a Canadian, so I dont have a say in the matter (and rightfully so). But it seems like one huge headache for all the provinces to pay an improportionate amount for maintaining Quebec's uniqueness, and to buffer and subsidize the daycare programs and cultural customs of a single province...
Besides, Quebec was technically conquered by the British, and since the Canadian Crown is the legal successor to the British Crown, it seems that the Quebecois would only be elated to achieve full independence as a new Francophone Republic, independent of the old symbolic relic of British colonial rule. No?
They would have to trade with their 2 neighboring countries, Canada and the U.S. That reality would make English the necessary language of commerce. Currently they hold Canada hostage to their language/culture demands, but if they had to fend for themselves, they'd probably be surprised at how quickly the rest of North America would say, "Look, we don't speak French. If you want to talk to us, use English".
I am sure that there are many Canadians out there who are just plain fedup with being held hostage to the french and their language and culture demands. If the language cannot survive on it's own then let it die. To continue to spend hundreds of millions more of taxpayers dollars on a language that probably should have disappeared long ago is ridiculous and a waste of good money. So far bilingualism has cost the Canadian taxpayers billions since bilingualism was implemented. What a terrible waste of taxpayers dollars on a people who appear to want to have nothing to do with Canada, 40% always voting for the PQ party, and refuses to allow the anglophones their COR rights to be able to use their language as they see fit.
And what still peeves me off is the fact that the Federal government does nothing about anglophone rights but the Feds sure can go ballistic over french rights when neccasary when it comes to protecting their language outside Quebec. Hypocrats.
Ontario and New Brunswick have signs in both languages on their road signs and goverment buildings and yet quebec sticks it's finger at them and continues to remain unilingual. Quebec must be forced to become bilingual or be told to leave.
But that would take a politically incorrect PM who has the cahones to standup to Quebec, but I don't think we will see something like that in the near future. Shame.
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 04:39 am |
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stevecanuck wrote: Regarding the topic of this thread, Charles should agree to apologize after the French apologize to the Indians. Talk about cultural genocide.
Hell would freeze over before the french would ever apologize to anybody. They are the only ones who have been hard done by, the whiners. I just hope that Charles doesn't fall down on his knees and grovel to the french and ask for forgiveness. 
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 12:43 pm |
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I left Ontario nearly 30 years ago, '79 to be exact, on account of feeling like I was in the middle of an incestuous family - the never-ending Quebec bitching and whining, Ontario acting like its dysfunctional significant other, and as in any dysfunctional family, the need to maintain its co-dependent relationship via a "translator" - in this case, Ottawa filtering and interpretating the transmissions between the two. (And the cold temps didn't help my frame of mind any.)
It didn't help the country of Canada one iota that we had Trudeau in power, and I'll never forget the day that Charles de Gaulle hollered off a Montreal balcony "Vive le Québec libre!" - that was the beginning of the end of any respect I might ever have had for "their cause." Whatever good de Gaulle may otherwise have done in his life, his doing this has had repercussions for the last 4 decades. He fired them up and they've pretty much de-facto ruled Canada ever since.
Why would they want to separate? They don't. If they were serious, they would have done so many moons ago. They've got it made in the shade, man.
Of course, since learning more about the economic "arrangements" that the ROC has with Quebec, I have only become more incensed over the years.
It is utterly ridiculous that this country even CONTAINS a FEDERAL party which ONLY Quebec "citizens" can vote for in FEDERAL ELECTIONS.
One of the biggest provinces in this nation, which has always been TEEMING with natural resources, Quebec has NEVER been a HAVE province.
It offers 7-buck-a-day daycare that AB and BC (and ON too, until that province's McGuinty's policies a couple of years ago resulted in 98,000 net new public sector jobs and only 400 private sector ones landed them in the Have-Not status they now "enjoy") subsidize to the tune of the difference between that 7 bucks and what it actually costs for daycare. Of course there's the ongoing fight over Churchill I which has turned into Churchill II and the gazillion other ways we bend over backwards.
Perhaps people would take it more seriously if more provinces' own budgets were on the line to support all this nationalist-far-left BS that Quebec is so proud of.
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 01:02 pm |
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Oh, by the way.
Who remembers the day that Stephane Dion produced the Clarity Act thing in response to the extremely narrow referendum result of Quebec's single largest effort to separate which was marked by outsiders as being the wrong question to have asked of voters in the first place? The way it was phrased led many to believe that they could separate from Canada, yet retain full Canadian rights in terms of the use of the Canadian dollar, post offices, military etc.
I remember that day well. I was a complete political neophyte in those days, so while I moved west harbouring resentment towards the Ottawa-Montreal-Toronto corridor, I did in fact feel very good that day. I pushed a fist into the air and said YES, that's what's needed. CLEAR language so that there are NO misinterpretations in the future, should this arise again.
Well, guess who actually wrote that piece that Dion presented?
Stephen Harper.
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