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CC78 wrote: Boatman wrote: CC78 wrote: DarkSoul1984 wrote: CC78 wrote: State level...well, VA is a purple state. At best, he will have to govern as a moderate.
If he doesn't govern as a moderate, he can kiss a possible Republican succession of his governorship goodbye.
That's been the rule in VA for 20 years now. Every time the opposition wins the race for Governor, it's because the current Governor f*cked something up...
Tim Kaine did more to hurt Deeds than McDonnell did.
What I'm more interesting in at the moment is why all the exit poll interviews shown on the major networks concerned themselves with people who thought this was a referendum on Obama. When I was at the polling station and standing in line for 2 hours to vote, not a single person said anything remotely akin to that sentiment. Most of it had to do with Kaine not protecting rural residents from the economic situation or immigration issues.
Yet I saw not a single thing about any of that...
Agreed my friend.
Conservatives who believe that a VA governor can institute the teabagger's agenda are extremely stupid people. Such a position demonstrates such an incredible lack of knowledge, honesty, and perspective that their opinions are per se irrelevant, much like their entire movement.
In fact, McDonnell ran, in part, on an agenda promoting massive transportation infrastructure investment which is right up the liberal alley and spent a good deal of time distancing himself from his social con positions.
Despite how much conservatives hate northern Virginia, it is nonetheless an incredibly powerful force in VA politics and therefore has to be catered to. VA has a particularly healthy relationship with its historically moderate local politicians. An extreme right winger would go over about as well as an extreme left winger....not well at all.
This reality is even more apparent in NJ.
Clearly, the loss in NY was notable and a poorly handled situation by republicans. But, it involved 135,000 votes as compared to the millions of voters who rejected the liberal agendas in Va. and N.J. Corzine governed as a liberal and the results were predictable; job loss, high property taxes, corruption. McDonnell's campaign focused on jobs, economy and who could resist talking about the democrats attempted take over of the health care systems. It does little to focus on social issues when the economy and jobs are the on the forefront of every American. In both elections, the independents ran away from liberals. This fact can only serve to send a message to the dems in congress they had better move to the far right of George Soros or they will be cleaning out their desks this time next year.
Boat, if you feel like either VA or NJ will miraculously indulge in the tea-baggery coming from the right these days, well you're entitled to your illogical opinion.
Reality conflicts with your viewpoint. VA and NJ governors necessarily must govern moderate. The political dynamic in these states is much more pragmatic....to the point where, as I said, highly liberal states like Vermont, have remarkably good relationships with a Republican governor.
There are very few places where the tea bag, extreme right agenda has any hope of having any traction...and those places are becoming increasingly limited to a smattering of poor southern states. That's not what we're dealing with in either NJ or VA.
Apparently Boatman is forgetting former VA Governor Gilmore.
He ran in much the same way McDonnell ran; lower taxes, lower spending. In fact, the one thing that got him elected was his proposed abolition of the car tax.
It is what invariably led to the election of Mark Warner since Gilmore failed to get rid of the car tax. He didn't even try, instead claiming the state needed money and all the time not cutting state spending.
Now, let's take a look at McDonnell's big transportation plan, which is what pushed him through in Northern VA. He plans to sell off half of the state's ABC stores (these would be the liquor stores) to pay for it. He's going to have to do a helluva job at balancing a budget around this since he is getting rid of long term income for the short term liquidation of some assets. In order to cope with this, he is going to run into opposition from the strongly Republican southwest VA when it comes time to compensate for the lack of income because the last thing Fallwell U and Robertson land want is an expansion of alcohol legislation. Which, sadly, is exactly what their constituents will want when their corner ABC store gets sold to a private entity who will then NOT BE ABLE to sell and distribute liquor under the current regulations set up in VA.
Notable points: the plan that got him elected will be opposed by his own out-vocal base.
Possible outcomes: he goes along with his base and a Democrat gets elected in 2013, or he stays moderate in which case his base raises all holy hell in Richmond and causes him problems there.
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Obama and his Democrat minions just keep falling out of the frying pan and into the fire.
Tuesday, they lost elections in states where a year ago, they would've won easily.
Today, the unemployment rate hits 10.2%, illustrating Obama's failure to fix the economy.
Obama=the wrong man for the job.
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CC78 wrote: Boatman wrote: CC78 wrote: DarkSoul1984 wrote: CC78 wrote: State level...well, VA is a purple state. At best, he will have to govern as a moderate.
If he doesn't govern as a moderate, he can kiss a possible Republican succession of his governorship goodbye.
That's been the rule in VA for 20 years now. Every time the opposition wins the race for Governor, it's because the current Governor f*cked something up...
Tim Kaine did more to hurt Deeds than McDonnell did.
What I'm more interesting in at the moment is why all the exit poll interviews shown on the major networks concerned themselves with people who thought this was a referendum on Obama. When I was at the polling station and standing in line for 2 hours to vote, not a single person said anything remotely akin to that sentiment. Most of it had to do with Kaine not protecting rural residents from the economic situation or immigration issues.
Yet I saw not a single thing about any of that...
Agreed my friend.
Conservatives who believe that a VA governor can institute the teabagger's agenda are extremely stupid people. Such a position demonstrates such an incredible lack of knowledge, honesty, and perspective that their opinions are per se irrelevant, much like their entire movement.
In fact, McDonnell ran, in part, on an agenda promoting massive transportation infrastructure investment which is right up the liberal alley and spent a good deal of time distancing himself from his social con positions.
Despite how much conservatives hate northern Virginia, it is nonetheless an incredibly powerful force in VA politics and therefore has to be catered to. VA has a particularly healthy relationship with its historically moderate local politicians. An extreme right winger would go over about as well as an extreme left winger....not well at all.
This reality is even more apparent in NJ.
Clearly, the loss in NY was notable and a poorly handled situation by republicans. But, it involved 135,000 votes as compared to the millions of voters who rejected the liberal agendas in Va. and N.J. Corzine governed as a liberal and the results were predictable; job loss, high property taxes, corruption. McDonnell's campaign focused on jobs, economy and who could resist talking about the democrats attempted take over of the health care systems. It does little to focus on social issues when the economy and jobs are the on the forefront of every American. In both elections, the independents ran away from liberals. This fact can only serve to send a message to the dems in congress they had better move to the far right of George Soros or they will be cleaning out their desks this time next year.
Boat, if you feel like either VA or NJ will miraculously indulge in the tea-baggery coming from the right these days, well you're entitled to your illogical opinion.
Reality conflicts with your viewpoint. VA and NJ governors necessarily must govern moderate. The political dynamic in these states is much more pragmatic....to the point where, as I said, highly liberal states like Vermont, have remarkably good relationships with a Republican governor.
There are very few places where the tea bag, extreme right agenda has any hope of having any traction...and those places are becoming increasingly limited to a smattering of poor southern states. That's not what we're dealing with in either NJ or VA.
First of all, the tea party movement is not "extreme right". Protesting runaway government spending, corporate bailouts and industry nationalization, is not extreme. When banks are bailed out with our money at almost 0% interest, and they loan it back to us at up to 30%, it can piss people off. This country is in extreme debt, no thanks to Bush, but Obama and the democrats have made it ridiculous. Unemployment is 10% and the democrats are trying to pass the largest unfunded entitlement in history, not because the American people wanted it, but because the democrats in congress want it. These policies are worthy of opposition that has been peaceful, thoughtful and well organized. The extreme right would consist of skinheads, separatists, KKK, and I haven't seen any of those at the Tea Party functions. So, let's not position the bar to where any opposition to liberal policy is considered "extreme".
No one expects the citizens of Northern Va. or upstate N.J. to become totally pro-life, or take themselves off government subsidy and become entrepreneurs, but change will come from within the government itself by court appointments, law revues and the way state business is done in general. If the Governor can sell his agenda, and it works for the people, the state turns. This is a great opportunity for conservatives in both states.
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Except, Boat, the voting bloc that swing in favour of McDonnell in VA is a voting bloc completely dependent upon government protection and funding.
Warner won after Gilmore because Gilmore cut funding for everything while Warner extended certain protections and welfare to rural southwestern VA. This is the same bloc Tim Kaine neglected for the better part of 4 years and Deeds refused to address.
Given that Republican support in the state of VA REQUIRES this bloc of the electorate to be successful in anything they do, if they do any of the things you want them to do, they'll effectively handicap their own agenda.
I mean, if this state is such a great opportunity for the conservative movement, you should take a step back and think about the fact that Warner (whose agenda was pretty moderate) still (and always did) draws approval ratings above 60%.
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DarkSoul1984 wrote: Except, Boat, the voting bloc that swing in favour of McDonnell in VA is a voting bloc completely dependent upon government protection and funding.
Warner won after Gilmore because Gilmore cut funding for everything while Warner extended certain protections and welfare to rural southwestern VA. This is the same bloc Tim Kaine neglected for the better part of 4 years and Deeds refused to address.
Given that Republican support in the state of VA REQUIRES this bloc of the electorate to be successful in anything they do, if they do any of the things you want them to do, they'll effectively handicap their own agenda.
I mean, if this state is such a great opportunity for the conservative movement, you should take a step back and think about the fact that Warner (whose agenda was pretty moderate) still (and always did) draws approval ratings above 60%.
In Virginia, the independents went to McDonnell by a margin of 30% over Deeds, the black vote was down by 20% and the under 30 vote down by 50%. What that tells me is that the democrat message only works when Obama himself delivers it. Forty percent of Northern Va., the most liberal part of the state, went for McDonnell. As you know, N. Va. looks into the backyard of the White House. Altogether, McDonnell won by 17 points. I doubt the southwestern rural bloc could sway the election that much.
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Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2009 01:24 pm |
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Southwestern VA is to a Republican VA Governor what Ohio is to a Republican Presidential Candidate.
You can analyze the voter turnout any way you want (and mostly incorrect), but if you ignore the people of Dansville, it will come back to bite you in the ass.
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Boatman wrote: CC78 wrote: Boatman wrote: CC78 wrote: DarkSoul1984 wrote: CC78 wrote: State level...well, VA is a purple state. At best, he will have to govern as a moderate.
If he doesn't govern as a moderate, he can kiss a possible Republican succession of his governorship goodbye.
That's been the rule in VA for 20 years now. Every time the opposition wins the race for Governor, it's because the current Governor f*cked something up...
Tim Kaine did more to hurt Deeds than McDonnell did.
What I'm more interesting in at the moment is why all the exit poll interviews shown on the major networks concerned themselves with people who thought this was a referendum on Obama. When I was at the polling station and standing in line for 2 hours to vote, not a single person said anything remotely akin to that sentiment. Most of it had to do with Kaine not protecting rural residents from the economic situation or immigration issues.
Yet I saw not a single thing about any of that...
Agreed my friend.
Conservatives who believe that a VA governor can institute the teabagger's agenda are extremely stupid people. Such a position demonstrates such an incredible lack of knowledge, honesty, and perspective that their opinions are per se irrelevant, much like their entire movement.
In fact, McDonnell ran, in part, on an agenda promoting massive transportation infrastructure investment which is right up the liberal alley and spent a good deal of time distancing himself from his social con positions.
Despite how much conservatives hate northern Virginia, it is nonetheless an incredibly powerful force in VA politics and therefore has to be catered to. VA has a particularly healthy relationship with its historically moderate local politicians. An extreme right winger would go over about as well as an extreme left winger....not well at all.
This reality is even more apparent in NJ.
Clearly, the loss in NY was notable and a poorly handled situation by republicans. But, it involved 135,000 votes as compared to the millions of voters who rejected the liberal agendas in Va. and N.J. Corzine governed as a liberal and the results were predictable; job loss, high property taxes, corruption. McDonnell's campaign focused on jobs, economy and who could resist talking about the democrats attempted take over of the health care systems. It does little to focus on social issues when the economy and jobs are the on the forefront of every American. In both elections, the independents ran away from liberals. This fact can only serve to send a message to the dems in congress they had better move to the far right of George Soros or they will be cleaning out their desks this time next year.
Boat, if you feel like either VA or NJ will miraculously indulge in the tea-baggery coming from the right these days, well you're entitled to your illogical opinion.
Reality conflicts with your viewpoint. VA and NJ governors necessarily must govern moderate. The political dynamic in these states is much more pragmatic....to the point where, as I said, highly liberal states like Vermont, have remarkably good relationships with a Republican governor.
There are very few places where the tea bag, extreme right agenda has any hope of having any traction...and those places are becoming increasingly limited to a smattering of poor southern states. That's not what we're dealing with in either NJ or VA.
First of all, the tea party movement is not "extreme right". Protesting runaway government spending, corporate bailouts and industry nationalization, is not extreme. When banks are bailed out with our money at almost 0% interest, and they loan it back to us at up to 30%, it can piss people off. This country is in extreme debt, no thanks to Bush, but Obama and the democrats have made it ridiculous. Unemployment is 10% and the democrats are trying to pass the largest unfunded entitlement in history, not because the American people wanted it, but because the democrats in congress want it. These policies are worthy of opposition that has been peaceful, thoughtful and well organized. The extreme right would consist of skinheads, separatists, KKK, and I haven't seen any of those at the Tea Party functions. So, let's not position the bar to where any opposition to liberal policy is considered "extreme".
No one expects the citizens of Northern Va. or upstate N.J. to become totally pro-life, or take themselves off government subsidy and become entrepreneurs, but change will come from within the government itself by court appointments, law revues and the way state business is done in general. If the Governor can sell his agenda, and it works for the people, the state turns. This is a great opportunity for conservatives in both states.
The tea party movement overall is extremist. Suggesting that one must be a member of the KKK to be considered extreme right is to normalize the various types of extremism that exist on the political right of the spectrum. You simply find yourself involved or otherwise sympathetic with this movement and thus understandably want to rationalize it. You only strengthen the argument of how far to the right the right has gone.
As to your analysis of VA and NJ, again, you obviously seek reinforcement, not objective reality. The political realities of these two states along with the nature of governorships to begin with do not reinforce your viewpoint, unfortunately for you.
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CC78 wrote: Boatman wrote: CC78 wrote: Boatman wrote: CC78 wrote: DarkSoul1984 wrote: CC78 wrote: State level...well, VA is a purple state. At best, he will have to govern as a moderate.
If he doesn't govern as a moderate, he can kiss a possible Republican succession of his governorship goodbye.
That's been the rule in VA for 20 years now. Every time the opposition wins the race for Governor, it's because the current Governor f*cked something up...
Tim Kaine did more to hurt Deeds than McDonnell did.
What I'm more interesting in at the moment is why all the exit poll interviews shown on the major networks concerned themselves with people who thought this was a referendum on Obama. When I was at the polling station and standing in line for 2 hours to vote, not a single person said anything remotely akin to that sentiment. Most of it had to do with Kaine not protecting rural residents from the economic situation or immigration issues.
Yet I saw not a single thing about any of that...
Agreed my friend.
Conservatives who believe that a VA governor can institute the teabagger's agenda are extremely stupid people. Such a position demonstrates such an incredible lack of knowledge, honesty, and perspective that their opinions are per se irrelevant, much like their entire movement.
In fact, McDonnell ran, in part, on an agenda promoting massive transportation infrastructure investment which is right up the liberal alley and spent a good deal of time distancing himself from his social con positions.
Despite how much conservatives hate northern Virginia, it is nonetheless an incredibly powerful force in VA politics and therefore has to be catered to. VA has a particularly healthy relationship with its historically moderate local politicians. An extreme right winger would go over about as well as an extreme left winger....not well at all.
This reality is even more apparent in NJ.
Clearly, the loss in NY was notable and a poorly handled situation by republicans. But, it involved 135,000 votes as compared to the millions of voters who rejected the liberal agendas in Va. and N.J. Corzine governed as a liberal and the results were predictable; job loss, high property taxes, corruption. McDonnell's campaign focused on jobs, economy and who could resist talking about the democrats attempted take over of the health care systems. It does little to focus on social issues when the economy and jobs are the on the forefront of every American. In both elections, the independents ran away from liberals. This fact can only serve to send a message to the dems in congress they had better move to the far right of George Soros or they will be cleaning out their desks this time next year.
Boat, if you feel like either VA or NJ will miraculously indulge in the tea-baggery coming from the right these days, well you're entitled to your illogical opinion.
Reality conflicts with your viewpoint. VA and NJ governors necessarily must govern moderate. The political dynamic in these states is much more pragmatic....to the point where, as I said, highly liberal states like Vermont, have remarkably good relationships with a Republican governor.
There are very few places where the tea bag, extreme right agenda has any hope of having any traction...and those places are becoming increasingly limited to a smattering of poor southern states. That's not what we're dealing with in either NJ or VA.
First of all, the tea party movement is not "extreme right". Protesting runaway government spending, corporate bailouts and industry nationalization, is not extreme. When banks are bailed out with our money at almost 0% interest, and they loan it back to us at up to 30%, it can piss people off. This country is in extreme debt, no thanks to Bush, but Obama and the democrats have made it ridiculous. Unemployment is 10% and the democrats are trying to pass the largest unfunded entitlement in history, not because the American people wanted it, but because the democrats in congress want it. These policies are worthy of opposition that has been peaceful, thoughtful and well organized. The extreme right would consist of skinheads, separatists, KKK, and I haven't seen any of those at the Tea Party functions. So, let's not position the bar to where any opposition to liberal policy is considered "extreme".
No one expects the citizens of Northern Va. or upstate N.J. to become totally pro-life, or take themselves off government subsidy and become entrepreneurs, but change will come from within the government itself by court appointments, law revues and the way state business is done in general. If the Governor can sell his agenda, and it works for the people, the state turns. This is a great opportunity for conservatives in both states.
The tea party movement overall is extremist. Suggesting that one must be a member of the KKK to be considered extreme right is to normalize the various types of extremism that exist on the political right of the spectrum. You simply find yourself involved or otherwise sympathetic with this movement and thus understandably want to rationalize it. You only strengthen the argument of how far to the right the right has gone.
As to your analysis of VA and NJ, again, you obviously seek reinforcement, not objective reality. The political realities of these two states along with the nature of governorships to begin with do not reinforce your viewpoint, unfortunately for you.
CC78. Here we are on a Saturday again, and I actually thought you, and others were trying to demonstrate...for a change...some intellect, and more reasonable civil educational traits all of us might enjoy. In other words. I actually believed many of you were smarter than your previous posts exposed to the rest of us. But....sadly. I was wrong again about all of you. You are incapable of exposing something you obviously do not have, and do not want to have. Too bad for all of you. Continue.
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CC78 wrote: Boatman wrote: CC78 wrote: Boatman wrote: CC78 wrote: DarkSoul1984 wrote: CC78 wrote: State level...well, VA is a purple state. At best, he will have to govern as a moderate.
If he doesn't govern as a moderate, he can kiss a possible Republican succession of his governorship goodbye.
That's been the rule in VA for 20 years now. Every time the opposition wins the race for Governor, it's because the current Governor f*cked something up...
Tim Kaine did more to hurt Deeds than McDonnell did.
What I'm more interesting in at the moment is why all the exit poll interviews shown on the major networks concerned themselves with people who thought this was a referendum on Obama. When I was at the polling station and standing in line for 2 hours to vote, not a single person said anything remotely akin to that sentiment. Most of it had to do with Kaine not protecting rural residents from the economic situation or immigration issues.
Yet I saw not a single thing about any of that...
Agreed my friend.
Conservatives who believe that a VA governor can institute the teabagger's agenda are extremely stupid people. Such a position demonstrates such an incredible lack of knowledge, honesty, and perspective that their opinions are per se irrelevant, much like their entire movement.
In fact, McDonnell ran, in part, on an agenda promoting massive transportation infrastructure investment which is right up the liberal alley and spent a good deal of time distancing himself from his social con positions.
Despite how much conservatives hate northern Virginia, it is nonetheless an incredibly powerful force in VA politics and therefore has to be catered to. VA has a particularly healthy relationship with its historically moderate local politicians. An extreme right winger would go over about as well as an extreme left winger....not well at all.
This reality is even more apparent in NJ.
Clearly, the loss in NY was notable and a poorly handled situation by republicans. But, it involved 135,000 votes as compared to the millions of voters who rejected the liberal agendas in Va. and N.J. Corzine governed as a liberal and the results were predictable; job loss, high property taxes, corruption. McDonnell's campaign focused on jobs, economy and who could resist talking about the democrats attempted take over of the health care systems. It does little to focus on social issues when the economy and jobs are the on the forefront of every American. In both elections, the independents ran away from liberals. This fact can only serve to send a message to the dems in congress they had better move to the far right of George Soros or they will be cleaning out their desks this time next year.
Boat, if you feel like either VA or NJ will miraculously indulge in the tea-baggery coming from the right these days, well you're entitled to your illogical opinion.
Reality conflicts with your viewpoint. VA and NJ governors necessarily must govern moderate. The political dynamic in these states is much more pragmatic....to the point where, as I said, highly liberal states like Vermont, have remarkably good relationships with a Republican governor.
There are very few places where the tea bag, extreme right agenda has any hope of having any traction...and those places are becoming increasingly limited to a smattering of poor southern states. That's not what we're dealing with in either NJ or VA.
First of all, the tea party movement is not "extreme right". Protesting runaway government spending, corporate bailouts and industry nationalization, is not extreme. When banks are bailed out with our money at almost 0% interest, and they loan it back to us at up to 30%, it can piss people off. This country is in extreme debt, no thanks to Bush, but Obama and the democrats have made it ridiculous. Unemployment is 10% and the democrats are trying to pass the largest unfunded entitlement in history, not because the American people wanted it, but because the democrats in congress want it. These policies are worthy of opposition that has been peaceful, thoughtful and well organized. The extreme right would consist of skinheads, separatists, KKK, and I haven't seen any of those at the Tea Party functions. So, let's not position the bar to where any opposition to liberal policy is considered "extreme".
No one expects the citizens of Northern Va. or upstate N.J. to become totally pro-life, or take themselves off government subsidy and become entrepreneurs, but change will come from within the government itself by court appointments, law revues and the way state business is done in general. If the Governor can sell his agenda, and it works for the people, the state turns. This is a great opportunity for conservatives in both states.
The tea party movement overall is extremist. Suggesting that one must be a member of the KKK to be considered extreme right is to normalize the various types of extremism that exist on the political right of the spectrum. You simply find yourself involved or otherwise sympathetic with this movement and thus understandably want to rationalize it. You only strengthen the argument of how far to the right the right has gone.
As to your analysis of VA and NJ, again, you obviously seek reinforcement, not objective reality. The political realities of these two states along with the nature of governorships to begin with do not reinforce your viewpoint, unfortunately for you.
With any political ideaology you have the traditionalists, the activists, and the extremists. The Tea Party movement is at best activists. There is nothing extreme about protesting poor government policy.
I suppose it's hard for you to get your head around the fact that the president is anything but pragmatic. He is left-wing. He decided to take full advantage of the complete majorities and ram through left-wing socialistic policies, and has failed thus far. No attempt at bipartisanship or his promise to change the tone in Washington. Now, he has spent his political capital probably quicker than any president in history. His chances of getting a health care reform bill that resembles anything like he wanted is slim to none. Cap and trade is probably dead. My guess is that the democrats will be devoting 2010 to job creation in order to save their jobs in November elections.
Governorships have consequences. The power to appoint executives, judges, law enforcement leadership, can change the direction a state moves. The state budgets are approved by the governor. The governors success or failure effects elections on county and local levels.
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The Engine wrote: http://www.politico.com/livepulse/1109/Pelosi_dismisses_impact_of_New_Jersey_Virginia.html
I believe Speaker Pelosi and many other's in my party are foolish to ignore the writing on the wall.
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The Engine wrote: Joe Steel wrote: PATruth wrote: Yep, the dems won and Obama didn't even pay attention on Tuesday night. Last time I checked her approval rating was about 25%. I think it's time she start considering a career change. Reid is already making his plans.
Where did you check? I'd like to see some polling on Nancy Pelosi.
Here's one where she has 34%:
Cheney and Pelosi Have Poor Ratings in Common
Pelosi’s ratings down, while Cheney’s improved from record low
by Lydia Saad
PRINCETON, NJ -- Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and former Vice President Dick Cheney have little in common politically, but they receive almost identical image ratings from the American public. According to a May 29-31 Gallup Poll, 37% of Americans have a favorable view of Cheney and 34% have a favorable view of Pelosi. Both Cheney and Pelosi are viewed unfavorably by at least half of Americans.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/120761/Cheney-Pelosi-Poor-Ratings-Common.aspx Polls of all Americans is fairly meaningless to Pelosi, as she is not held accountable to them. She is responsible for acting in the best interests of her constituents in California.
A lot of the anger that I've heard against her is fairly baseless and just partisan hatred with a tinge of misogyny, so it's not surprising that she's not that popular countrywide.
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