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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 07:15 pm |
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The Engine wrote: "We won."
Talk about a state of denial. 
You sure are excited about the loss of a House Seat.
Seeing as all the right talks about is how Democrats should fear great losses in the House and Senate in 2010 I would say that the results of this election are not sending a message to the left as much as it should to the right.
"Talk about a state of denial" 
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c2c wrote: The Engine wrote: "We won."
Talk about a state of denial.
You sure are excited about the loss of a House Seat.
Seeing as all the right talks about is how Democrats should fear great losses in the House and Senate in 2010 I would say that the results of this election are not sending a message to the left as much as it should to the right.
"Talk about a state of denial"
"Talk about a state of denial" Okay c2c. Tell us what state you want us to THINK you are in, and we will still call it...like you did....as the State of Denial.
We're not excited about that lonely ONE house seat in N.Y. You have been under a Majority of Democrats since 2006...and you still have no idea what the difference is between Winning and Losing...according to Pelosi who ALWAYS defends her STUPIDITY by saying LOSING for us IS WINNING!
Wonder how she will react, and what she'll call it when the day arrives that she has to HAND OVER THE Speaker's Gavel to a Republican??? Will she smile from behind her OVERDONE Botox and say....."Oh, it feels so good to WIN?"
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 07:24 pm |
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The Engine wrote: (Post modified by c2c for response)
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_110409/content/01125106.guest.html
Your love affair with Mr. Limbaugh answers everything.
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The Engine
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c2c wrote: The Engine wrote: (Post modified by c2c for response)
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_110409/content/01125106.guest.html
Your love affair with Mr. Limbaugh answers everything.
Keep laughing.
Imagine yourself looking at a picture, painted with a multitude of colored dots. You would be scrutinizing the dots, and unable to step back and look at the entire picture. I see now why you are a liberal.
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 07:35 pm |
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Oldsalt wrote: c2c wrote: The Engine wrote: "We won."
Talk about a state of denial.
You sure are excited about the loss of a House Seat.
Seeing as all the right talks about is how Democrats should fear great losses in the House and Senate in 2010 I would say that the results of this election are not sending a message to the left as much as it should to the right.
"Talk about a state of denial"
"Talk about a state of denial" Okay c2c. Tell us what state you want us to THINK you are in, and we will still call it...like you did....as the State of Denial.
We're not excited about that lonely ONE house seat in N.Y. You have been under a Majority of Democrats since 2006...and you still have no idea what the difference is between Winning and Losing...according to Pelosi who ALWAYS defends her STUPIDITY by saying LOSING for us IS WINNING!
Wonder how she will react, and what she'll call it when the day arrives that she has to HAND OVER THE Speaker's Gavel to a Republican??? Will she smile from behind her OVERDONE Botox and say....."Oh, it feels so good to WIN?"
You are such a crack up! 
Here you are telling liberals that we should be afraid of the "signs" from Virginia and New Jersey because it's the wave of the next election but the loss of House Seat doesn't deserve the same evaluation of "signs" because we already hold the majority.
And then you want to turn around and tell us that the "signs" point to a Republican take back of the Congress based not on the Congressional election that you don't want to hear about but on only those results that you do want to discuss even though when it comes to the test of 2010 for the Hill you have already lost the first round.
Good times!
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BuckFan wrote: PATruth wrote: BuckFan wrote: From Pelosi's perspective she did win. Her block picked up a vote from a district that was GOP for 100 years.
Governors don't really impact her. She is trying to marshal votes in the House and from that perspective she won.
I agree with her, right now I'd trade governors for Congressmen any day, especially Senators.
Yep, she gained a possible vote in the house and scared the life out of every moderate democrat that will be facing their constituency in 2010.
The momentum is clear as should be the message. American don't want the radical and extreme left wing politics of Obama. The people still like Obama as a person but are in near total disagreement with his policies. The two will eventually reach equilibrium.
Let's see who really lost. The conservative candidate in traditionally Republican Virginia ran to the middle to get the votes needed. The moderate Republican candidate in traditionally Democratic NJ won and the only real Rightie to run on a Rightie platform got beat in a traditional GOP House district. Yes that's right, when faced with the Rightie rhetoric the independents bolted to the Left.
And this is a victory for the Repubs how?
They are setting up a party where only the Righties can win the primaries but people won't vote for them in the general election. Sounds promising ... for the Dems.
And Maine voted down the left wing agenda of letting queers marry. The " righty" as you put it, ran as neither a R or D and did very well for a new commer with little money.
Obama strongly back all three Dems and lost two.
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Oldsalt
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 07:43 pm |
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c2c wrote: Oldsalt wrote: c2c wrote: The Engine wrote: "We won."
Talk about a state of denial.
You sure are excited about the loss of a House Seat.
Seeing as all the right talks about is how Democrats should fear great losses in the House and Senate in 2010 I would say that the results of this election are not sending a message to the left as much as it should to the right.
"Talk about a state of denial"
"Talk about a state of denial" Okay c2c. Tell us what state you want us to THINK you are in, and we will still call it...like you did....as the State of Denial.
We're not excited about that lonely ONE house seat in N.Y. You have been under a Majority of Democrats since 2006...and you still have no idea what the difference is between Winning and Losing...according to Pelosi who ALWAYS defends her STUPIDITY by saying LOSING for us IS WINNING!
Wonder how she will react, and what she'll call it when the day arrives that she has to HAND OVER THE Speaker's Gavel to a Republican??? Will she smile from behind her OVERDONE Botox and say....."Oh, it feels so good to WIN?"
You are such a crack up!
Here you are telling liberals that we should be afraid of the "signs" from Virginia and New Jersey because it's the wave of the next election but the loss of House Seat doesn't deserve the same evaluation of "signs" because we already hold the majority.
And then you want to turn around and tell us that the "signs" point to a Republican take back of the Congress based not on the Congressional election that you don't want to hear about but on only those results that you do want to discuss even though when it comes to the test of 2010 for the Hill you have already lost the first round.
Good times!
c2c. Are you done? Do ya feel better now? Tell me how I said any of what you just wrote above. Good times? You bet! Time will tell whether you want to hear it or not. Your problem is... you think there's a fight going on, and you insist we lost the 1st round. Actually. It's better than that c2c. It's not a fight. It's more of an AWAKENING all of you will have...when you come out of your Nancy Pelosi state of Denial where LOSING is WINNING. Enjoy it while you can. History REALLY DOES repeat itself. You'll see.
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 07:46 pm |
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The Engine wrote: c2c wrote: The Engine wrote: (Post modified by c2c for response)
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_110409/content/01125106.guest.html
Your love affair with Mr. Limbaugh answers everything.
Keep laughing.
Imagine yourself looking at a picture, painted with a multitude of colored dots. You would be scrutinizing the dots, and unable to step back and look at the entire picture. I see now why you are a liberal.
Known Fact - You are sitting there and hanging on the words of Mr. Limbaugh.
Simple Fact - It robs you of all credibility but it does explain what rocks you overturn to find your statements and patterns of "thought" for the day.
Pure comedy.
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 07:53 pm |
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Oldsalt wrote: c2c wrote: Oldsalt wrote: c2c wrote: The Engine wrote: "We won."
Talk about a state of denial.
You sure are excited about the loss of a House Seat.
Seeing as all the right talks about is how Democrats should fear great losses in the House and Senate in 2010 I would say that the results of this election are not sending a message to the left as much as it should to the right.
"Talk about a state of denial"
"Talk about a state of denial" Okay c2c. Tell us what state you want us to THINK you are in, and we will still call it...like you did....as the State of Denial.
We're not excited about that lonely ONE house seat in N.Y. You have been under a Majority of Democrats since 2006...and you still have no idea what the difference is between Winning and Losing...according to Pelosi who ALWAYS defends her STUPIDITY by saying LOSING for us IS WINNING!
Wonder how she will react, and what she'll call it when the day arrives that she has to HAND OVER THE Speaker's Gavel to a Republican??? Will she smile from behind her OVERDONE Botox and say....."Oh, it feels so good to WIN?"
You are such a crack up!
Here you are telling liberals that we should be afraid of the "signs" from Virginia and New Jersey because it's the wave of the next election but the loss of House Seat doesn't deserve the same evaluation of "signs" because we already hold the majority.
And then you want to turn around and tell us that the "signs" point to a Republican take back of the Congress based not on the Congressional election that you don't want to hear about but on only those results that you do want to discuss even though when it comes to the test of 2010 for the Hill you have already lost the first round.
Good times!
c2c. Are you done? Do ya feel better now? Tell me how I said any of what you just wrote above. Good times? You bet! Time will tell whether you want to hear it or not. Your problem is... you think there's a fight going on, and you insist we lost the 1st round. Actually. It's better than that c2c. It's not a fight. It's more of an AWAKENING all of you will have...when you come out of your Nancy Pelosi state of Denial where LOSING is WINNING. Enjoy it while you can. History REALLY DOES repeat itself. You'll see.
"Tell me how I said any of what you just wrote above."
If you can't follow the things that you write there is little chance that what anyone writes in response to you will make sense.
You can't compound a personal deficit on your end and expect to come out informed.
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The Engine
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 07:55 pm |
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c2c wrote: The Engine wrote: c2c wrote: The Engine wrote: (Post modified by c2c for response)
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_110409/content/01125106.guest.html
Your love affair with Mr. Limbaugh answers everything.
Keep laughing.
Imagine yourself looking at a picture, painted with a multitude of colored dots. You would be scrutinizing the dots, and unable to step back and look at the entire picture. I see now why you are a liberal.
Known Fact - You are sitting there and hanging on the words of Mr. Limbaugh.
Simple Fact - It robs you of all credibility but it does explain what rocks you overturn to find your statements and patterns of "thought" for the day.
Pure comedy.
Sorry, I thought everyone had the intellectual fortitude to look at all sources of information and utilize their own judgement about whether the data is valid or not. Apparently, I was mistaken.
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 08:00 pm |
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The Engine wrote: (Bold and underline by c2c)c2c wrote: The Engine wrote: c2c wrote: The Engine wrote: (Post modified by c2c for response)
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_110409/content/01125106.guest.html
Your love affair with Mr. Limbaugh answers everything.
Keep laughing.
Imagine yourself looking at a picture, painted with a multitude of colored dots. You would be scrutinizing the dots, and unable to step back and look at the entire picture. I see now why you are a liberal.
Known Fact - You are sitting there and hanging on the words of Mr. Limbaugh.
Simple Fact - It robs you of all credibility but it does explain what rocks you overturn to find your statements and patterns of "thought" for the day.
Pure comedy.
Sorry, I thought everyone had the intellectual fortitude to look at all sources of information and utilize their own judgement about whether the data is valid or not. Apparently, I was mistaken.
You are a fan, follower and parrot of Mr. Limbaugh.
Of course you are mistaken! ![[grin]](/forums/themes/default/grinning-smiley-007.gif)
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The Engine
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 08:13 pm |
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c2c wrote: The Engine wrote: (Bold and underline by c2c)c2c wrote: The Engine wrote: c2c wrote: The Engine wrote: (Post modified by c2c for response)
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_110409/content/01125106.guest.html
Your love affair with Mr. Limbaugh answers everything.
Keep laughing.
Imagine yourself looking at a picture, painted with a multitude of colored dots. You would be scrutinizing the dots, and unable to step back and look at the entire picture. I see now why you are a liberal.
Known Fact - You are sitting there and hanging on the words of Mr. Limbaugh.
Simple Fact - It robs you of all credibility but it does explain what rocks you overturn to find your statements and patterns of "thought" for the day.
Pure comedy.
Sorry, I thought everyone had the intellectual fortitude to look at all sources of information and utilize their own judgement about whether the data is valid or not. Apparently, I was mistaken.
You are a fan, follower and parrot of Mr. Limbaugh.
Of course you are mistaken!
I posted an opinion piece, of an opinion I happen to agree with.
Talk about being a parrot? You're an Obama parrot. I'd much rather be a Limbaugh parrot than an Obama parrot.
The day is fast aproaching, when support of Obama will be a mark of shame.
Keep cheering him on and I'll keep laughing at you.
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Oldsalt
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 08:14 pm |
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c2c wrote: Oldsalt wrote: c2c wrote: Oldsalt wrote: c2c wrote: The Engine wrote: "We won."
Talk about a state of denial.
You sure are excited about the loss of a House Seat.
Seeing as all the right talks about is how Democrats should fear great losses in the House and Senate in 2010 I would say that the results of this election are not sending a message to the left as much as it should to the right.
"Talk about a state of denial"
"Talk about a state of denial" Okay c2c. Tell us what state you want us to THINK you are in, and we will still call it...like you did....as the State of Denial.
We're not excited about that lonely ONE house seat in N.Y. You have been under a Majority of Democrats since 2006...and you still have no idea what the difference is between Winning and Losing...according to Pelosi who ALWAYS defends her STUPIDITY by saying LOSING for us IS WINNING!
Wonder how she will react, and what she'll call it when the day arrives that she has to HAND OVER THE Speaker's Gavel to a Republican??? Will she smile from behind her OVERDONE Botox and say....."Oh, it feels so good to WIN?"
You are such a crack up!
Here you are telling liberals that we should be afraid of the "signs" from Virginia and New Jersey because it's the wave of the next election but the loss of House Seat doesn't deserve the same evaluation of "signs" because we already hold the majority.
And then you want to turn around and tell us that the "signs" point to a Republican take back of the Congress based not on the Congressional election that you don't want to hear about but on only those results that you do want to discuss even though when it comes to the test of 2010 for the Hill you have already lost the first round.
Good times!
c2c. Are you done? Do ya feel better now? Tell me how I said any of what you just wrote above. Good times? You bet! Time will tell whether you want to hear it or not. Your problem is... you think there's a fight going on, and you insist we lost the 1st round. Actually. It's better than that c2c. It's not a fight. It's more of an AWAKENING all of you will have...when you come out of your Nancy Pelosi state of Denial where LOSING is WINNING. Enjoy it while you can. History REALLY DOES repeat itself. You'll see.
"Tell me how I said any of what you just wrote above."
If you can't follow the things that you write there is little chance that what anyone writes in response to you will make sense.
You can't compound a personal deficit on your end and expect to come out informed.
Like you, as I attempt to emulate what you say, and how you say it. I didn't expect you to come close to thinking what I said made sense. Which is exactly how I, and many others feel about your attempts...which prove you are operating from that very Personal Deficit you accused me of experiencing. See what happens when someone copies...or tries to be like you? You come out senseless as well on your end...and totally Uninformed.
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Oldsalt wrote: c2c wrote: Oldsalt wrote: c2c wrote: The Engine wrote: "We won."
Talk about a state of denial.
You sure are excited about the loss of a House Seat.
Seeing as all the right talks about is how Democrats should fear great losses in the House and Senate in 2010 I would say that the results of this election are not sending a message to the left as much as it should to the right.
"Talk about a state of denial"
"Talk about a state of denial" Okay c2c. Tell us what state you want us to THINK you are in, and we will still call it...like you did....as the State of Denial.
We're not excited about that lonely ONE house seat in N.Y. You have been under a Majority of Democrats since 2006...and you still have no idea what the difference is between Winning and Losing...according to Pelosi who ALWAYS defends her STUPIDITY by saying LOSING for us IS WINNING!
Wonder how she will react, and what she'll call it when the day arrives that she has to HAND OVER THE Speaker's Gavel to a Republican??? Will she smile from behind her OVERDONE Botox and say....."Oh, it feels so good to WIN?"
You are such a crack up!
Here you are telling liberals that we should be afraid of the "signs" from Virginia and New Jersey because it's the wave of the next election but the loss of House Seat doesn't deserve the same evaluation of "signs" because we already hold the majority.
And then you want to turn around and tell us that the "signs" point to a Republican take back of the Congress based not on the Congressional election that you don't want to hear about but on only those results that you do want to discuss even though when it comes to the test of 2010 for the Hill you have already lost the first round.
Good times!
c2c. Are you done? Do ya feel better now? Tell me how I said any of what you just wrote above. Good times? You bet! Time will tell whether you want to hear it or not. Your problem is... you think there's a fight going on, and you insist we lost the 1st round. Actually. It's better than that c2c. It's not a fight. It's more of an AWAKENING all of you will have...when you come out of your Nancy Pelosi state of Denial where LOSING is WINNING. Enjoy it while you can. History REALLY DOES repeat itself. You'll see.
Ooooo an awakening .... ![[abduction]](/forums/themes/default/very_first_smiley.gif) ..... Come towards the light .... ![[eyeroll]](/forums/themes/default/sarcasm.gif)
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CC78 wrote: State level...well, VA is a purple state. At best, he will have to govern as a moderate.
If he doesn't govern as a moderate, he can kiss a possible Republican succession of his governorship goodbye.
That's been the rule in VA for 20 years now. Every time the opposition wins the race for Governor, it's because the current Governor f*cked something up...
Tim Kaine did more to hurt Deeds than McDonnell did.
What I'm more interesting in at the moment is why all the exit poll interviews shown on the major networks concerned themselves with people who thought this was a referendum on Obama. When I was at the polling station and standing in line for 2 hours to vote, not a single person said anything remotely akin to that sentiment. Most of it had to do with Kaine not protecting rural residents from the economic situation or immigration issues.
Yet I saw not a single thing about any of that...
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DarkSoul1984 wrote: CC78 wrote: State level...well, VA is a purple state. At best, he will have to govern as a moderate.
If he doesn't govern as a moderate, he can kiss a possible Republican succession of his governorship goodbye.
That's been the rule in VA for 20 years now. Every time the opposition wins the race for Governor, it's because the current Governor f*cked something up...
Tim Kaine did more to hurt Deeds than McDonnell did.
What I'm more interesting in at the moment is why all the exit poll interviews shown on the major networks concerned themselves with people who thought this was a referendum on Obama. When I was at the polling station and standing in line for 2 hours to vote, not a single person said anything remotely akin to that sentiment. Most of it had to do with Kaine not protecting rural residents from the economic situation or immigration issues.
Yet I saw not a single thing about any of that...
Agreed my friend.
Conservatives who believe that a VA governor can institute the teabagger's agenda are extremely stupid people. Such a position demonstrates such an incredible lack of knowledge, honesty, and perspective that their opinions are per se irrelevant, much like their entire movement.
In fact, McDonnell ran, in part, on an agenda promoting massive transportation infrastructure investment which is right up the liberal alley and spent a good deal of time distancing himself from his social con positions.
Despite how much conservatives hate northern Virginia, it is nonetheless an incredibly powerful force in VA politics and therefore has to be catered to. VA has a particularly healthy relationship with its historically moderate local politicians. An extreme right winger would go over about as well as an extreme left winger....not well at all.
This reality is even more apparent in NJ.
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CC78 wrote: DarkSoul1984 wrote: CC78 wrote: State level...well, VA is a purple state. At best, he will have to govern as a moderate.
If he doesn't govern as a moderate, he can kiss a possible Republican succession of his governorship goodbye.
That's been the rule in VA for 20 years now. Every time the opposition wins the race for Governor, it's because the current Governor f*cked something up...
Tim Kaine did more to hurt Deeds than McDonnell did.
What I'm more interesting in at the moment is why all the exit poll interviews shown on the major networks concerned themselves with people who thought this was a referendum on Obama. When I was at the polling station and standing in line for 2 hours to vote, not a single person said anything remotely akin to that sentiment. Most of it had to do with Kaine not protecting rural residents from the economic situation or immigration issues.
Yet I saw not a single thing about any of that...
Agreed my friend.
Conservatives who believe that a VA governor can institute the teabagger's agenda are extremely stupid people. Such a position demonstrates such an incredible lack of knowledge, honesty, and perspective that their opinions are per se irrelevant, much like their entire movement.
In fact, McDonnell ran, in part, on an agenda promoting massive transportation infrastructure investment which is right up the liberal alley and spent a good deal of time distancing himself from his social con positions.
Despite how much conservatives hate northern Virginia, it is nonetheless an incredibly powerful force in VA politics and therefore has to be catered to. VA has a particularly healthy relationship with its historically moderate local politicians. An extreme right winger would go over about as well as an extreme left winger....not well at all.
This reality is even more apparent in NJ.
Clearly, the loss in NY was notable and a poorly handled situation by republicans. But, it involved 135,000 votes as compared to the millions of voters who rejected the liberal agendas in Va. and N.J. Corzine governed as a liberal and the results were predictable; job loss, high property taxes, corruption. McDonnell's campaign focused on jobs, economy and who could resist talking about the democrats attempted take over of the health care systems. It does little to focus on social issues when the economy and jobs are the on the forefront of every American. In both elections, the independents ran away from liberals. This fact can only serve to send a message to the dems in congress they had better move to the far right of George Soros or they will be cleaning out their desks this time next year.
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Boatman wrote: CC78 wrote: DarkSoul1984 wrote: CC78 wrote: State level...well, VA is a purple state. At best, he will have to govern as a moderate.
If he doesn't govern as a moderate, he can kiss a possible Republican succession of his governorship goodbye.
That's been the rule in VA for 20 years now. Every time the opposition wins the race for Governor, it's because the current Governor f*cked something up...
Tim Kaine did more to hurt Deeds than McDonnell did.
What I'm more interesting in at the moment is why all the exit poll interviews shown on the major networks concerned themselves with people who thought this was a referendum on Obama. When I was at the polling station and standing in line for 2 hours to vote, not a single person said anything remotely akin to that sentiment. Most of it had to do with Kaine not protecting rural residents from the economic situation or immigration issues.
Yet I saw not a single thing about any of that...
Agreed my friend.
Conservatives who believe that a VA governor can institute the teabagger's agenda are extremely stupid people. Such a position demonstrates such an incredible lack of knowledge, honesty, and perspective that their opinions are per se irrelevant, much like their entire movement.
In fact, McDonnell ran, in part, on an agenda promoting massive transportation infrastructure investment which is right up the liberal alley and spent a good deal of time distancing himself from his social con positions.
Despite how much conservatives hate northern Virginia, it is nonetheless an incredibly powerful force in VA politics and therefore has to be catered to. VA has a particularly healthy relationship with its historically moderate local politicians. An extreme right winger would go over about as well as an extreme left winger....not well at all.
This reality is even more apparent in NJ.
Clearly, the loss in NY was notable and a poorly handled situation by republicans. But, it involved 135,000 votes as compared to the millions of voters who rejected the liberal agendas in Va. and N.J. Corzine governed as a liberal and the results were predictable; job loss, high property taxes, corruption. McDonnell's campaign focused on jobs, economy and who could resist talking about the democrats attempted take over of the health care systems. It does little to focus on social issues when the economy and jobs are the on the forefront of every American. In both elections, the independents ran away from liberals. This fact can only serve to send a message to the dems in congress they had better move to the far right of George Soros or they will be cleaning out their desks this time next year.
I have to agree the Republican Party made a big mistake in backing Fatso the Tire and how nice of her to back the Dem running. Bu Bye Dede don't let the McDonald's door hit you in the large backside on the way out. I frankly wasn't impressed with Hoffman when he spoke but was surprised he did as well as he did.
Pelosi is an idiot. When her poll numbers are brought to her attention she says shes not out to win a popularity contest. I think she rules that Congress with threats, bribes and donations. Hopefully her days of winning anything are coming to an end. When the Blue Dogs smell blood they will turn on her.
I would think the Libs would be glad to be rid of Nancy, she and Harry are both embarrassing. Considering how the gays have been tossed aside San Francisco should be frothing at the mouth to get rid of Pelosi. I hope they have a long memory and a short fuse.
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Boatman wrote: CC78 wrote: DarkSoul1984 wrote: CC78 wrote: State level...well, VA is a purple state. At best, he will have to govern as a moderate.
If he doesn't govern as a moderate, he can kiss a possible Republican succession of his governorship goodbye.
That's been the rule in VA for 20 years now. Every time the opposition wins the race for Governor, it's because the current Governor f*cked something up...
Tim Kaine did more to hurt Deeds than McDonnell did.
What I'm more interesting in at the moment is why all the exit poll interviews shown on the major networks concerned themselves with people who thought this was a referendum on Obama. When I was at the polling station and standing in line for 2 hours to vote, not a single person said anything remotely akin to that sentiment. Most of it had to do with Kaine not protecting rural residents from the economic situation or immigration issues.
Yet I saw not a single thing about any of that...
Agreed my friend.
Conservatives who believe that a VA governor can institute the teabagger's agenda are extremely stupid people. Such a position demonstrates such an incredible lack of knowledge, honesty, and perspective that their opinions are per se irrelevant, much like their entire movement.
In fact, McDonnell ran, in part, on an agenda promoting massive transportation infrastructure investment which is right up the liberal alley and spent a good deal of time distancing himself from his social con positions.
Despite how much conservatives hate northern Virginia, it is nonetheless an incredibly powerful force in VA politics and therefore has to be catered to. VA has a particularly healthy relationship with its historically moderate local politicians. An extreme right winger would go over about as well as an extreme left winger....not well at all.
This reality is even more apparent in NJ.
Clearly, the loss in NY was notable and a poorly handled situation by republicans. But, it involved 135,000 votes as compared to the millions of voters who rejected the liberal agendas in Va. and N.J. Corzine governed as a liberal and the results were predictable; job loss, high property taxes, corruption. McDonnell's campaign focused on jobs, economy and who could resist talking about the democrats attempted take over of the health care systems. It does little to focus on social issues when the economy and jobs are the on the forefront of every American. In both elections, the independents ran away from liberals. This fact can only serve to send a message to the dems in congress they had better move to the far right of George Soros or they will be cleaning out their desks this time next year.
Boat, if you feel like either VA or NJ will miraculously indulge in the tea-baggery coming from the right these days, well you're entitled to your illogical opinion.
Reality conflicts with your viewpoint. VA and NJ governors necessarily must govern moderate. The political dynamic in these states is much more pragmatic....to the point where, as I said, highly liberal states like Vermont, have remarkably good relationships with a Republican governor.
There are very few places where the tea bag, extreme right agenda has any hope of having any traction...and those places are becoming increasingly limited to a smattering of poor southern states. That's not what we're dealing with in either NJ or VA.
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Wildkitten wrote: I would think the Libs would be glad to be rid of Nancy, she and Harry are both embarrassing. Considering how the gays have been tossed aside San Francisco should be frothing at the mouth to get rid of Pelosi. I hope they have a long memory and a short fuse.
The gays in San Francisco vote for more than one issue than just the gay agenda.
Now, as for whether or not Libs want to be rid of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid isn't the correct question.
The correct question is whether or not a real opposition can be run against them since they are locally elected for the national stage.
1) Outlook is dismal against Reid. The Nevada Gaming Commission loves him. All of Nevada loves him because he does good things for the State of Nevada.
2) I'm not in Pelosi's district, but she appears to have a stranglehold on the middle to lower class votes and big business in her district, which is fairly common amongst incumbent Representatives, so take your best shot. I don't think you'll do much to unseat her. Certainly no liberal would vote for whatever opposition you would espouse.
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