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O.Bender
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 08:15 pm |
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I ask everybody to answer these questions, first of all Jews.
1) I suppose we all agree that democracy is in general rule (or better to say decisive vote) of the majority.
2) Can a state be democratic if it states (by constitution) to be a country of rule of ethnic minority?
3)Can a state be considered to be a democracy now and not democracy in 30 years without changing any laws and electoral/governmental practice?
4) And now, can Israel be a democracy being by constitution a Jewish state and having the majority of population to be Palestinian? - Jews, answer this question
5) All we know what dempgraphic trends in Israel are - in 30 years or even less palestinians will become majority. So, what do you think Israel must do -
a) To make another genocide against Palestinians to keep for Jews status of majority.
b) To acknoledge the reality and become a democratic state with rule of Palestinian majority.
6) What extention of Jewish settlemets means
a) That Israeli elite doesn't plan to become a democratic palestinian state and will take certain measures for it (see previous point)
b) Is planning to become a democratic palestinian state and now, Jews, please explain me why settlements are expanding then?
I suppose all these questions are simple. And there's nothing racist or not legitimate. Jews, ypu're welcome to answer. 
This thread came from here -
http://perspectives.com/forums/view_topic.php?id=215819&forum_id=87
Last edited on Thu Nov 5th, 2009 08:17 pm by O.Bender
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O.Bender
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 06:59 pm |
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So, by disability of local Jews to contradict, may I assume that this forum is full of Jewish racists, who support a racist state of Israel and future genocide of Palestinians?
How shy and sneaky Jews are when they are cornered... 
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 07:02 pm |
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| In the same way South Africa was before apartheit ended. People do vote, only a small preportion of the country is allowed to however. Security policy dominates politics.
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 07:05 pm |
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| Drunk so early in the day?
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noetsi
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 07:10 pm |
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Your not real big I know on reading history of political science speedman. Much of the population who lives in the state of Israel is not allowed to vote in Israeli elections. Security based policies do in fact dominate israeli politics.
Read about the stuff you talk about. It helps.
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speedman
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 07:17 pm |
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| About 72% of the Israeli population is Jewish.
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speedman
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 07:19 pm |
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| noetsi, you obviously aren't up to speed on the population demographics in Israel. About 72% are Jews while about 20% are Arabs.
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 07:22 pm |
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That is true only of the formal state of israel. The occupied territories, with large populations who's economic and personal behavior is strongly controlled by the state of Israel (quite involuntarily on the part of the inhabitants) is heavily muslim.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel
South Africa, before the fall of the Boer regime, was busy making whites the majority by creating pseudo-states for blacks as well. Defining Israel as only a portion of the population creates a myth.
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O.Bender
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 08:01 pm |
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Speedman, Jews are flleying Israel. They have bigger portion of elderly population
(i.e. their population will fall fast). And, what is more important, birth rate of Palestinians is 2-3 times higher than of Jews. As we know, in 3d World, which has birth rate similar to Palestinian, population doubles every 20 years. While Jews can only hope not to fall in number... In 30 years Palestinians will outnumber Jews in Israel even if we count only citizens of Israel of Palestinian origine, excluding Palestinians in occupied territories (noesti, please don't divert the discussion into wrong way).
So, answer my questions please, point after point.
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Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2009 05:01 am |
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| O.Bender, go to hell you nekulturny, anti-semitic bastard. No one is fooled by your Jew hating propaganda. It's a shame that when the Nazis were running roughshod over your drunken, illiterate ancestors they didn't end your bloodline right then and there and done the world a favor. It is no wonder that the greatest ruler your second rate country ever had wasn't even Russian but rather the German born Czarina Catherine the Great. My God, man! The largest nation on earth and you were humiliated by the island nation of Japan 100 years ago, then the Germans beat you down in World War I and then almost obliterated you in World War II when they are only the size of Texas! What's more humiliating is that it wasn't even a Russian who led you to victory over Germany but a Georgian! It seems that Russians can do nothing for themselves except hate Jews! Last edited on Sat Nov 7th, 2009 05:06 am by Emaus_40
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dcbl
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Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2009 10:58 am |
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O. Bender, let's keep these wildly speculative threads on the UUU board, shall we?
I do realize that you aren't all that bright, so I will try to explain this to you in a manner that is easy to read and understand.
Don't be afraid to ask for help if you are confused! I am expecting it, as you have demonstrated a extraordinary lack of intelligence.
OK - here we go...
Any topic that you want to start that has as a premise that is based in wild speculation needs to go on THIS board that was especially created for Unconfirmed and Unconventional theories.
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Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2009 04:27 pm |
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O.Bender wrote: So, by disability of local Jews to contradict, may I assume that this forum is full of Jewish racists, who support a racist state of Israel and future genocide of Palestinians?
How shy and sneaky Jews are when they are cornered...
I am NOT a fan of Israel's treatment of Palestinians, or the fairly unconditional support of the US therefor, so you should consider the following as objective and as sympathetic as you are likely to get.
You are a bigoted troll, and in violation of the rules.
"containing schoolyard insults directed at a user on the site (incl. family) or group of users on that board"
II by OP - closed.
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