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cygonaut
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 08:58 am |
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When the Moderate Party achieved “state recognition” earlier this year, Rhode Island political insiders wondered whether the group would harm the state GOP more than the Democratic Party.
A quick look at the third quarter fundraising reports shows that the fear could already be a reality.
http://www.warwickonline.com/pages/full_story_news/push?article-Moderate+Party-s+fundraising+equals+GOP-s%20&id=4340527-Moderate+Party-s+fundraising+equals+GOP-s&instance=home_news_2nd_left
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Last edited on Fri Nov 6th, 2009 01:19 pm by Paula Ticks
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Axis Mundi
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 01:32 pm |
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This "Moderate Party" sounds as close to "moderate" as the "Constitution Party" is to Constitution Principles. 
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PATruth
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 02:03 pm |
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What is a "moderate"? A RINO? A Blue Dog democrat? Sounds like the same shi*, different package.
Gimme a libertarian and let's really get it done.
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Thoughtless
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 02:29 pm |
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Axis Mundi wrote: This "Moderate Party" sounds as close to "moderate" as the "Constitution Party" is to Constitution Principles.
Why would you say that?
I agree that that a better name for the "Constitution Party" would be the "Rewrite the Constitution Party", but I haven't found anything devious about the "Moderate Party".
Besides, we're talking about $29,000. Around these parts, we have individuals donating upward of $1M to state political parties.
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Axis Mundi
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 02:56 pm |
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Thoughtless wrote: Axis Mundi wrote: This "Moderate Party" sounds as close to "moderate" as the "Constitution Party" is to Constitution Principles.
Why would you say that?
I agree that that a better name for the "Constitution Party" would be the "Rewrite the Constitution Party", but I haven't found anything devious about the "Moderate Party".
Besides, we're talking about $29,000. Around these parts, we have individuals donating upward of $1M to state political parties.
In truth I ahven't investigated the party fully, but from te article it appears to be just another right-wing party fishing for we Independants and Moderates.
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Heresy
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 03:49 pm |
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| I think the definition of a modern American moderate is someone who is disgusted with the bible-thumping and war-mongering of the GOP, but who can't stand the pandering to the lowest economic classes that the DNC is so proud of.
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Axis Mundi
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 08:09 pm |
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Heresy wrote: I think the definition of a modern American moderate is someone who is disgusted with the bible-thumping and war-mongering of the GOP, but who can't stand the pandering to the lowest economic classes that the DNC is so proud of.
I can live with that.
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Thoughtless
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 09:29 pm |
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Heresy wrote: I think the definition of a modern American moderate is someone who is disgusted with the bible-thumping and war-mongering of the GOP, but who can't stand the pandering to the lowest economic classes that the DNC is so proud of.
My take is that they are attempting to appeal to the broadest section of the electorate as possible.
Sounds like a prescription for getting things done to me.
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Heresy
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 09:55 pm |
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Thoughtless wrote: Heresy wrote: I think the definition of a modern American moderate is someone who is disgusted with the bible-thumping and war-mongering of the GOP, but who can't stand the pandering to the lowest economic classes that the DNC is so proud of.
My take is that they are attempting to appeal to the broadest section of the electorate as possible.
Sounds like a prescription for getting things done to me.
Smart move on their part. People really are getting sick of hard left rhetoric vs hard right rhetoric, because only about 45% of Americans feel that strongly about either side of the spectrum. The other 55% are somewhere closer to the middle, so winning candidates in contested districts tend to be somewhat centrist.
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George Aligator
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 10:47 pm |
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| Rhode Island is a Democratic bastion. As elsewhere in NE, the attempt to purge Republican rinos is losing steam.
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cygonaut
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Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2009 02:27 am |
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The GOP might be swept aside by a better
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George Aligator
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Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2009 12:26 pm |
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Heresy wrote: Thoughtless wrote: Heresy wrote: I think the definition of a modern American moderate is someone who is disgusted with the bible-thumping and war-mongering of the GOP, but who can't stand the pandering to the lowest economic classes that the DNC is so proud of.
My take is that they are attempting to appeal to the broadest section of the electorate as possible.
Sounds like a prescription for getting things done to me.
Smart move on their part. People really are getting sick of hard left rhetoric vs hard right rhetoric, because only about 45% of Americans feel that strongly about either side of the spectrum. The other 55% are somewhere closer to the middle, so winning candidates in contested districts tend to be somewhat centrist.
A very good point, to which must be added that the number of contested districts is rapidly diminishing to the vanishing point, as both political parties benefit from partisan gerrymandering much more than either one does from heterogenous districts and real election contests. This political reality is a threat to our already tottering and senile election process.
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ATTAburnsinHELL
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Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2009 12:39 pm |
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A rightwinger, a moderate and a progressive were standing at a fork in the road, all in the same car
They had already been up the road to the right, Reaganbushonomics avenue, which led nowhere except war and financial ruin, but the rightwinger wanted everyone to go back down that road again
The progressive pointed to the road to the left, saying that road, FDR Blvd, would be good for all three, was more modern and had a track record of success
The moderate, buffudled, thought he came up with the best solution
"Hey, let's go up both roads at the same time!"
The rightwing and the progressive finally agreed on one thing- ignore the idiot moderate
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Axis Mundi
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Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2009 01:39 pm |
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ATTAburnsinHELL wrote: A rightwinger, a moderate and a progressive were standing at a fork in the road, all in the same car
They had already been up the road to the right, Reaganbushonomics avenue, which led nowhere except war and financial ruin, but the rightwinger wanted everyone to go back down that road again
The progressive pointed to the road to the left, saying that road, FDR Blvd, would be good for all three, was more modern and had a track record of success
The moderate, buffudled, thought he came up with the best solution
"Hey, let's go up both roads at the same time!"
The rightwing and the progressive finally agreed on one thing- ignore the idiot moderate
Or ignore the idiot who looks down FDR Blvd with the rose lensed binoculars.
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ATTAburnsinHELL
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Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2009 02:43 pm |
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A rightwinger believes that war is great and prefers to kill'em all and let God sort them out
A progressive sees war as something to be avioded unless there is no alternative because it's serious business, expensive and leads to unintended consequences
A moderate gets talked into sort of going to war but only by sticking their toe in the water, using as little as possible to fight it with and when it becomes too bloody decides maybe it wasn't a good idea after all
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Thoughtless
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Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2009 04:45 pm |
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ATTAburnsinHELL wrote: A rightwinger believes that war is great and prefers to kill'em all and let God sort them out
A progressive sees war as something to be avioded unless there is no alternative because it's serious business, expensive and leads to unintended consequences
A moderate gets talked into sort of going to war but only by sticking their toe in the water, using as little as possible to fight it with and when it becomes too bloody decides maybe it wasn't a good idea after all
So, LBJ was a rightwinger, Richard Nixon a progressive, and Hillary Clinton a moderate?
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Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2009 06:38 pm |
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| It might be a sign to come in the NE and MW. It wont be in the South and West.
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Tsalagi1
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Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2009 07:17 pm |
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| noble concept..but people..this is Rhode Island we're talking about...population, what...12?
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ATTAburnsinHELL
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Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2009 07:27 pm |
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ATTAburnsinHELL wrote: A rightwinger believes that war is great and prefers to kill'em all and let God sort them out
A progressive sees war as something to be avioded unless there is no alternative because it's serious business, expensive and leads to unintended consequences
A moderate gets talked into sort of going to war but only by sticking their toe in the water, using as little as possible to fight it with and when it becomes too bloody decides maybe it wasn't a good idea after all
LBJ escalated, realized it was a mistake, decided not to run for a second term= moderate
Nixon tried tough, also realized that it wasn't worth the cost, settled for a negotiated retreat= moderate
Hillary went with invading iraq and stayed with it= rightwinger
Obama's afghan policy= moderate
For once Id like to see a progressive in charge
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ATTAburnsinHELL
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Posted: Sun Nov 8th, 2009 10:36 am |
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Axis Mundi wrote: ATTAburnsinHELL wrote: A rightwinger, a moderate and a progressive were standing at a fork in the road, all in the same car
They had already been up the road to the right, Reaganbushonomics avenue, which led nowhere except war and financial ruin, but the rightwinger wanted everyone to go back down that road again
The progressive pointed to the road to the left, saying that road, FDR Blvd, would be good for all three, was more modern and had a track record of success
The moderate, buffudled, thought he came up with the best solution
"Hey, let's go up both roads at the same time!"
The rightwing and the progressive finally agreed on one thing- ignore the idiot moderate
Or ignore the idiot who looks down FDR Blvd with the rose lensed binoculars.
So then you vote to go down Reaganbushonomics avenue
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