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McRocket
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 Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2009 12:59 am

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Drudge X wrote: Sorry but that kind of argument won't fly. His intent was well-knowned. Just because no such idiom exist doesn't mean that Ahmadinejad did not wish to wipe Israel off the map.    

I can say that I never lied before. I just give out the wrong statement on purpose.


Is that how you do things - condemn people not for what they actually say? But for what you assume they really meant?

 

I don't like this guy either.

But to condemn someone just because of what you think they meant to say is just wrong.

 

 

Last edited on Sat Nov 7th, 2009 01:00 am by McRocket

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McRocket wrote: Drudge X wrote: Sorry but that kind of argument won't fly. His intent was well-knowned. Just because no such idiom exist doesn't mean that Ahmadinejad did not wish to wipe Israel off the map.    

I can say that I never lied before. I just give out the wrong statement on purpose.


Is that how you do things - condemn people not for what they actually say? But for what you assume they really meant?

 

I don't like this guy either.

But to condemn someone just because of what you think they meant to say is just wrong.

 

 
you are in denial. For example only not a threat to you... If I told someone I was going to kick their ass, it would be ignorant for them to hold a trash can lid against their buttocks, I might only need to punch them in the face. Regardless, it is what it is...

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 Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2009 02:41 am

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donkey32 wrote: I'd say, based on the information in the quoted post below, Quanti obviously knows too much. He has information for building an advanced nuclear weapon and COULD, one day, become a nuclear power.. I say we pre-emptively strike his kitchen NOW, before it's too late!
Quanti, you MUST allow un-announced searches of your sock drawer IMMEDIATELY to ascertain as to weather or not you posses nuclear technologies. We want FULL, UNFETTERED access to your junk drawer AND your bathroom cabinets.. IF you do not comply IMMEDIATELY, we will bar your access to the liquor store and confiscate your TV remote.

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The article goes on to say nothing identifying any "evidence". Only the mention of an IAEA request for an "explanation" from Iran.

The fact that "two point implosion device" isn't even what one would be technically referred to, is humorous in itself. And then, there's the fact that calling such designs (yes, there's more than one variety) "advanced" is downright laughable.

The 2 primary versions have been around for 65 years, and the FatMan bomb used one of them. The "two point linear implosion" configuration. Which is very inefficient. The more efficient "two point hollow-pit implosion" configuration isn't much more sophisticated.

The NYT article goes on to state:

The Guardian report said that even the existence of two-point implosion nuclear warhead technology is officially secret in both the United States and Britain.

Really? 'Cuz you can look a few different designs for it even on Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapon_design#Two-point_linear_implosion

This is the proverbial "mountain out of a molehill". And btw... this kind of device can be used to kickstart a fusion reaction for civilian energy production purposes. It's a very crude way to go, but it would work.



Hands-on nuclear physics is a realm I want no part of.  Besides... I can do infinitely more damage with an energy weapon of my own design, that's aboard a satellite.

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 Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2009 03:10 am

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Rexxhavikk wrote: you are in denial.

In denial of what?

I never said he doesn't really feel that way. He very well might.

 

My point is that a) he did NOT say what most people in the west think he said.

and b) there is NO way anyone can know what he really meant. Especially someone that has never met the man.

They can guess, assume or even hope. But they cannot know.

 

Have a nice day.

 

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quantumystic wrote: donkey32 wrote: I'd say, based on the information in the quoted post below, Quanti obviously knows too much. He has information for building an advanced nuclear weapon and COULD, one day, become a nuclear power.. I say we pre-emptively strike his kitchen NOW, before it's too late!
Quanti, you MUST allow un-announced searches of your sock drawer IMMEDIATELY to ascertain as to weather or not you posses nuclear technologies. We want FULL, UNFETTERED access to your junk drawer AND your bathroom cabinets.. IF you do not comply IMMEDIATELY, we will bar your access to the liquor store and confiscate your TV remote.


Hands-on nuclear physics is a realm I want no part of.  Besides... I can do infinitely more damage with an energy weapon of my own design, that's aboard a satellite.

If you manage to launch that satellite from your backyard, I'll be impressed..

Hey, I got a pair 'o socks here that could knock flies off an outhouse door..
Waddya say we mail 'em to the Ayatollah?
On the other hand, if we did, the FBI could arrest us for exporting biological agents to a state that supports terrorism..

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Q---COME ON TELL IS ! Hands-on nuclear physics is a realm I want no part of.  Besides... I can do infinitely more damage with an energy weapon of my own design, that's aboard a satellite.

YEP YOU WOULD paralyse THE WHOLE OF TELECOMMUNICATIONS WORLD WIDE AND THEN  interfere WITH THE Nyquist frequency

YOU ARE ONE TO WATCH

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 Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2009 03:04 pm

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donkey32 wrote: If you manage to launch that satellite from your backyard, I'll be impressed..

Hey, I got a pair 'o socks here that could knock flies off an outhouse door..
Waddya say we mail 'em to the Ayatollah?
On the other hand, if we did, the FBI could arrest us for exporting biological agents to a state that supports terrorism..


LOL

Let's not go there with the bio-hazard "weapons of massive funk".

And obviously, nobody's gonna launch a satellite out of a "backyard" anytime soon. I was merely pointing out that IF I ever hear back about the SCDN... well, it would be far more effective than a nuclear warhead Iran may eventually cook up based upon a 65 yr old design.

There are plenty of other people of course. I just like to think I'm the most pragmatic. And least interested in personal profit.

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 Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2009 03:19 pm

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andytown wrote: Q---COME ON TELL IS ! Hands-on nuclear physics is a realm I want no part of.  Besides... I can do infinitely more damage with an energy weapon of my own design, that's aboard a satellite.

YEP YOU WOULD paralyse THE WHOLE OF TELECOMMUNICATIONS WORLD WIDE AND THEN  interfere WITH THE Nyquist frequency

YOU ARE ONE TO WATCH



Dude, I'm a middle-aged retired physicist that once worked for the DoD. They and the FBI know all about me. My family (my father was NASA, my uncle is retired career Army Intelligence). Etc...

They don't need to "watch" me. It's very well known that I want to complete one last project for our nation. I just won't work for DARPA, or some other corporate defense contractor again. Now more than ever, the last thing our country needs is being price-gouged on essential military/security technology.

Putting patriotism before profit is why many simple and brilliant ideas never get implimented.


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