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obs
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Posted: Thu Dec 16th, 2004 06:07 pm |
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demdribble wrote: they open their border to terrorists- leaving us vulnerable.
how many of the 911 terrorists came through Canada again?
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happyin04
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Posted: Thu Dec 16th, 2004 07:27 pm |
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Canada_Is_The_Best_Country wrote: What have we done to you? Jsut becuase we didin't support the war? I mean, COME ON! ![[mad]](/forums/themes/default/madani.gif) It's soo very annoying. Please Awnser this poll.
I love Canadians. Have many friends there as I made deliveries to Yukon, BC and Alberta for a couple of years.
Once across the border there is not difference. Jasper and Banff National Park, just how awesome is that! Pincher Creek Crow Service Station, cheapest fuel around. Head Smashed In Buffalo Jump, what history in Alberta.
Blizzards and ice storms in the Fraiser Gorge. Cache Creek on Highway 97 has good truck stops. Lost transmission fluid at MP 70 and people came to help. Highway 37(Cassiar) in BC. 450 miles due north in the dead of winter. What a scenic wonderland. Fixed a broken hitch at Dease Lake.
Morely River in the Yukon. Who doesn't love Dan!
I know the people of western Canada are wonderful.
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BillytheKidd
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Posted: Thu Dec 16th, 2004 08:16 pm |
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How's this for a reason? Does it count? O canada how very Chi-Rat/Villi-pain-in-the-*ss of you.
"Prime Minister Paul Martin said Tuesday he does not believe the U.S. ballistic missile shield will succeed in shooting down incoming rockets, as he threw up new roadblocks to counter President George W. Bush's strong appeal for Canada to join his continental defence plan.
Canada will not put any money into building the missile shield and it will not allow Washington to station rockets on Canadian soil as the price of participation in the multibillion-dollar program, Martin told Global National in a year-end interview."
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obs
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Posted: Thu Dec 16th, 2004 08:28 pm |
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BillytheKidd wrote: "Prime Minister Paul Martin said Tuesday he does not believe the U.S. ballistic missile shield will succeed in shooting down incoming rockets, as he threw up new roadblocks to counter President George W. Bush's strong appeal for Canada to join his continental defence plan.
Canada will not put any money into building the missile shield and it will not allow Washington to station rockets on Canadian soil as the price of participation in the multibillion-dollar program, Martin told Global National in a year-end interview."
[thefinger] you, we're a sovereign nation we'll do exactly what we want
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The Libertarian
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Posted: Thu Dec 16th, 2004 08:34 pm |
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but your politics and policy infulence us.
....oh wait, that's what they tell us.
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BillytheKidd
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Posted: Thu Dec 16th, 2004 08:37 pm |
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obs wrote: BillytheKidd wrote: "Prime Minister Paul Martin said Tuesday he does not believe the U.S. ballistic missile shield will succeed in shooting down incoming rockets, as he threw up new roadblocks to counter President George W. Bush's strong appeal for Canada to join his continental defence plan.
Canada will not put any money into building the missile shield and it will not allow Washington to station rockets on Canadian soil as the price of participation in the multibillion-dollar program, Martin told Global National in a year-end interview."
[thefinger] you, we're a sovereign nation we'll do exactly what we want
Hey knock yourself out. But you know and I know that Canada, with 55,000 total military, couldn't defend themselves from Uganda. They'd kick you butt in a NY minute.
We also both know Canada doesn't have to have a defense system because the USA is their defense system. Reality check.
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Posted: Thu Dec 16th, 2004 08:42 pm |
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Here's some more info to brighten the day:
"TORONTO (AP) - Canada's security net is full of holes, with most border crossings guarded by a lone staffer and airport security so lax that missing security badges and uniforms recently turned up for sale on eBay.
A new Senate security report calls for reform, a boost in defense spending and improved cooperation with the United States. Canadians have relied too long on luck to avoid a terrorist attack, it says, scolding: "Unfortunately, luck is notoriously untrustworthy."
The 315-page report by the Senate Standing Committee on National Security and Defense, the first released under the year-old government of Prime Minister Paul Martin, said most of Canada's 160 land and maritime border crossings have only one person at the posts.
"The potential damage to the Canadian economy and other consequences that would come with allowing a terrorist to infiltrate the U.S. through Canada are massive," the report said.
Securing the 4,000-mile border is paramount, to prevent terrorist attacks and protect some $1.4 billion in trade each day between the North American neighbors."
Thanks Canada, I feel better knowing your on guard.
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obs
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Posted: Thu Dec 16th, 2004 08:57 pm |
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BillytheKidd wrote: Hey knock yourself out. But you know and I know that Canada, with 55,000 total military, couldn't defend themselves from Uganda. They'd kick you butt in a NY minute.
We also both know Canada doesn't have to have a defense system because the USA is their defense system. Reality check.
![[asleep]](/forums/themes/default/sleeping.gif) how many more frickin' times, there are NO US troops on Canadian soil and we do not ask for your protection.
Give me 1, yes just 1 example from history of when Canada was attacked and the USA came to its defence.
So by your "logic"...![[grin]](/forums/themes/default/grinning-smiley-007.gif) the US military 1,367,700 people couldn't defend itself from China 2,310,000 people
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The Libertarian
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Posted: Thu Dec 16th, 2004 09:16 pm |
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BillytheKidd wrote: We also both know Canada doesn't have to have a defense system because the USA is their defense system. Reality check.
Really though, if i were Canadian i would not care to have a big military for that very reason. Economically and strategically i do not see the reason Canada actually needs much of a military. I would just concern myself with meeting finance quotas with NAFTA and that's it.
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Posted: Thu Dec 16th, 2004 09:16 pm |
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obs wrote: BillytheKidd wrote: Hey knock yourself out. But you know and I know that Canada, with 55,000 total military, couldn't defend themselves from Uganda. They'd kick you butt in a NY minute.
We also both know Canada doesn't have to have a defense system because the USA is their defense system. Reality check.
how many more frickin' times, there are NO US troops on Canadian soil and we do not ask for your protection.
No sh*t Sherlock. Tell me what part of this you don't understand. If canada was attacked, the US would see that as a direct attack on us. Your gov't knows that and it's why you don't have a military nor and defense system. Got it?
Give me 1, yes just 1 example from history of when Canada was attacked and the USA came to its defence.
See previous answer.
So by your "logic"... the US military 1,367,700 people couldn't defend itself from China 2,310,000 people
Ring, ring, ring, ring. Ah . . . OBS that's the reality phone ringing and it's for you - so pick it up, will ya? How old are you? Whew you kids.
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obs
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Posted: Thu Dec 16th, 2004 09:21 pm |
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BillytheKidd wrote: Give me 1, yes just 1 example from history of when Canada was attacked and the USA came to its defence. See previous answer.
So by your "logic"... the US military 1,367,700 people couldn't defend itself from China 2,310,000 people
Ring, ring, ring, ring. Ah . . . OBS that's the reality phone ringing and it's for you - so pick it up, will ya? How old are you? Whew you kids.
As I expected you have no answer so you resort to some childish attempt at ridicule...too damn easy
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Posted: Thu Dec 16th, 2004 09:22 pm |
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The Libertarian wrote: BillytheKidd wrote: We also both know Canada doesn't have to have a defense system because the USA is their defense system. Reality check.
Really though, if i were Canadian i would not care to have a big military for that very reason. Economically and strategically i do not see the reason Canada actually needs much of a military. I would just concern myself with meeting finance quotas with NAFTA and that's it.
Exactly what they're doing. But they can only do it because the US is sitting right next door. Maybe it's time to tell canada you're on your own, along with alot of other countries. I'm tired of paying taxes to support countries that should be supporting themselves. We can use that money right here at home.
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Posted: Thu Dec 16th, 2004 09:26 pm |
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obs wrote:
Go way you bother me. You can't debate.
But just so's you'll be happy, I'll quote Pee Wee Herman - "I know you are, so what am I?"
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obs
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Posted: Thu Dec 16th, 2004 09:29 pm |
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BillytheKidd wrote: Exactly what they're doing. But they can only do it because the US is sitting right next door. Maybe it's time to tell canada you're on your own, along with alot of other countries. I'm tired of paying taxes to support countries that should be supporting themselves. We can use that money right here at home.
Your argument doesn't make sense
1) You say Canada relies on the USA for defence because we're neighbours
2) You admit we don't and never have asked for protection
So what the hell are we supposed to do? blame your own government not us
You don't support us buddy, you're teh ones with the huge budget deficit not us
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obs
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Posted: Thu Dec 16th, 2004 09:32 pm |
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BillytheKidd wrote: Go way you bother me. You can't debate.
But just so's you'll be happy, I'll quote Pee Wee Herman - "I know you are, so what am I?"
... You're the one who can't debate there's no sense or basis to most of your arguments.
If you're winning the discussion why run away ...
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Posted: Thu Dec 16th, 2004 09:36 pm |
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obs wrote: BillytheKidd wrote: Exactly what they're doing. But they can only do it because the US is sitting right next door. Maybe it's time to tell canada you're on your own, along with alot of other countries. I'm tired of paying taxes to support countries that should be supporting themselves. We can use that money right here at home.
Your argument doesn't make sense
1) You say Canada relies on the USA for defence because we're neighbours
2) You admit we don't and never have asked for protection
So what the hell are we supposed to do? blame your own government not us
You don't support us buddy, you're teh ones with the huge budget deficit not us
Canada has never needed a large Military. Because you are ournorthern neighbors, if the old USSR was going to get to us, they had to go threw you all first. Realizing this, Canada and America cooperated on many military projects.
The point is, the united states is a super power. There is no way in hell that we are going to let a threatening foreign power attack canada and control our northern border. This is simple reality.
Canada does not have to worry about an actual military threat because it is on our northern border. Whether Canada was on our northern border or not, we would still need a large military. We didn't build this military to protect Canada, it just serves in our best interrest to not let them be invaded.
On this point, Canada does not really owe us anything. If they chose to realize that they would be defended and moved funds from defense to social programs, that would make a lot of sense. If your best friend is Lenox lewis and he's also your roomate, do you really need to learn how to fight and devote your life to fighting? No way, because anyone trying to get in your house is already going to be beaten badly.
Best regards...
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ANI
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Posted: Thu Dec 16th, 2004 09:45 pm |
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| I don't dislike Canada at all, I resent some of the anti American stuff I heard out of Canada, but you didn't give any positive options in your poll.
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obs
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Posted: Thu Dec 16th, 2004 09:47 pm |
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OB wrote: Canada has never needed a large Military. Because you are ournorthern neighbors, if the old USSR was going to get to us, they had to go threw you all first. Realizing this, Canada and America cooperated on many military projects.
The point is, the united states is a super power. There is no way in hell that we are going to let a threatening foreign power attack canada and control our northern border. This is simple reality.
Canada does not have to worry about an actual military threat because it is on our northern border. Whether Canada was on our northern border or not, we would still need a large military. We didn't build this military to protect Canada, it just serves in our best interrest to not let them be invaded.
On this point, Canada does not really owe us anything. If they chose to realize that they would be defended and moved funds from defense to social programs, that would make a lot of sense. If your best friend is Lenox lewis and he's also your roomate, do you really need to learn how to fight and devote your life to fighting? No way, because anyone trying to get in your house is already going to be beaten badly.
Best regards...
Well put OB, we didn't ask for US protection if you feel you have to defend your Northern border then defend it but don't criticize Canada just because of our geographic location. Funny ho wno one ever voices the same criticism of Mexico...
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Posted: Thu Dec 16th, 2004 09:55 pm |
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obs wrote: OB wrote: Canada has never needed a large Military. Because you are ournorthern neighbors, if the old USSR was going to get to us, they had to go threw you all first. Realizing this, Canada and America cooperated on many military projects.
The point is, the united states is a super power. There is no way in hell that we are going to let a threatening foreign power attack canada and control our northern border. This is simple reality.
Canada does not have to worry about an actual military threat because it is on our northern border. Whether Canada was on our northern border or not, we would still need a large military. We didn't build this military to protect Canada, it just serves in our best interrest to not let them be invaded.
On this point, Canada does not really owe us anything. If they chose to realize that they would be defended and moved funds from defense to social programs, that would make a lot of sense. If your best friend is Lenox lewis and he's also your roomate, do you really need to learn how to fight and devote your life to fighting? No way, because anyone trying to get in your house is already going to be beaten badly.
Best regards...
Well put OB, we didn't ask for US protection if you feel you have to defend your Northern border then defend it but don't criticize Canada just because of our geographic location. Funny ho wno one ever voices the same criticism of Mexico...
I think that is because mexico is a totally different country with an entirely different culture. In general canadians don't migrate to america and americans don't migrate to canada because its pretty much like one country (with the exception of quebec).
I think because of the smaller defense Canada is able to provide more social programs so a lot of americans like to say "well, if we didn't have to pay all this money for defense then we could have all that too"
The brother and sister occasional have little spats over things that trully amount to nothing. In the long run, we may gripe and moan about each other, but if anyone ever hurt the other, well, they'd have hell to deal with.
Have a great day 
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Posted: Thu Dec 16th, 2004 09:58 pm |
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obs wrote: BillytheKidd wrote:
Shun
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