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KeepOurFreedoms
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Posted: Tue Oct 18th, 2005 10:12 pm |
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EC wrote: KOF, have any proof to support your theory?
Why would the government do something like that under the peoples noses? There's no logical reason to.
It isn't my theory. I listen to a radio show:http://www.derrybrownfield.com/
He talks about things like this and how the government takes peoples land, etc. He is an older man I believe out of Missouri.
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Posted: Tue Oct 18th, 2005 10:29 pm |
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You're the one advancing the theory on this thread so I'd like your input on it.
Any evidence? Why would the government do that?
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Posted: Tue Oct 18th, 2005 10:39 pm |
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EC wrote: You're the one advancing the theory on this thread so I'd like your input on it.
Any evidence? Why would the government do that?
I have been wondering myself it what he said isn't true, at least in part. I can't speak for other states, but here in Kentucky there is a very logical reason. They would possibly be hunted down and shot before a good breeding population could be established by the department of fish and game if wide spread knowledge of the big cats was known. Just my opinion, thought I would throw it out there.
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Posted: Wed Oct 19th, 2005 02:46 am |
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Toxic, the people are going to shoot them anyways. They don't need the government to tell them they are there if they just saw one in their back yard.
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Posted: Wed Oct 19th, 2005 04:29 am |
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EC wrote: You're the one advancing the theory on this thread so I'd like your input on it.
Any evidence? Why would the government do that?
If they can prove that the cats 'Natural' habitat is endangered they can stop any progress and perhaps confiscate lands to preserve this habitat.
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Posted: Tue Oct 25th, 2005 08:02 am |
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| I am quite shocked that there is skepticism about these animals,there deffinitly are mountain lions here in Rockcastle County,we have watched them for almost three years now.The dogs absolutely are scared to death of them too,they can smell them and immediately go to the house and refuse to leave the safety of the porch. Most times the sounds it makes will sound simular to a woman or a child screaming,the dogs get scared to death,whine and seek cover,It will send chills through an adult to hear it. The tracks it leaves in the soft river sand look like a giant cats print.When they first came around,we had cats all over town here,now its seldom that you see a stray cat or small dog anywhere around here.
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Posted: Tue Oct 25th, 2005 08:34 am |
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BamBam wrote: I am quite shocked that there is skepticism about these animals,there deffinitly are mountain lions here in Rockcastle County,we have watched them for almost three years now.The dogs absolutely are scared to death of them too,they can smell them and immediately go to the house and refuse to leave the safety of the porch. Most times the sounds it makes will sound simular to a woman or a child screaming,the dogs get scared to death,whine and seek cover,It will send chills through an adult to hear it. The tracks it leaves in the soft river sand look like a giant cats print.When they first came around,we had cats all over town here,now its seldom that you see a stray cat or small dog anywhere around here. It just makes me wonder if there isn't one lurking around here. I've never seen my German Shepard scared of anything, but lately he refuses to venture more then 20 feet from my back door. My St. Bernard isn't as cautious, but I've seen him look up into the trees looking for something. I don't know if I've ever seen my dogs look up into trees before. I know my Collie used to before he died, but not since I was a kid if my memory is right. That was probably because when I was young i would hide in one for him to come and find me. ( I was around 14 or 15, don't laugh to hard ) When I used to live in Russell Springs I would take them out at night and let them run and wrestle, but I don't remember them ever acting like this. Two of my cats disappeared a while back which could be anything I guess, but my dogs actions have me stumped. They're afraid of something and it bugs me because I don't know what.
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Posted: Thu Oct 27th, 2005 01:31 am |
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| Do a search for "mountian lions in New York" there are some photo's floating around the internet.
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Posted: Thu Oct 27th, 2005 01:35 am |
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I did see something on the net. I believe it was near Corning, NY.
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Posted: Fri Oct 28th, 2005 07:25 pm |
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Very interesting.... might be bobcat/badger or mountain lion....bears are also located in eastern kentucky. This might sound crazy/odd/weird.... but... some people might say it couldve been a bigfoot/sasquatch passing through... lol I know its nuts sort of... but you might want to check out bfro.net Research website about such animals that are supposed to be a large rare primate that still survives in the east and northwest... descendents from ancient giganthopithicus .... large extinct apes that once roamed the earth.... I know this is far fetched and sounds wacked... but evidence of these creatures have been found... they also drive dogs nuts/or frighten the crap out of them..... and have been none to kill them and cats. Supposed a nocturnal highly intelligent primate... it migrates... some in Florida.. Ohio... eastern Texas.... no breeding population here.... but they do pass through... check it out! Made a skeptical-cautious believer out of me..... take care 
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Posted: Fri Oct 28th, 2005 07:49 pm |
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| I'm telling y'all.......there is a release program going on.
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Posted: Sat Oct 29th, 2005 10:13 pm |
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Not necessarily KOF.
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Posted: Sat Oct 29th, 2005 11:08 pm |
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Monday, September 12, 2005
Rewilding the Great Plains
The tweed jacket with elbow patches crowd are at it again. They know what we need to make ours a better world. They have a plan: the rewilding of the Great Plains: USA Today.
My Dad tells about picking up a New Yorker at the airport in Des Moines. On the long drive across Iowa to Omaha, the vistor commented that she had, "never seen so much wasteland." Because it wasn't developed, it was just wasteland, I guess. I wonder what she would think about western Nebraska or Wyoming?
These rewilders aren't just the 'give it all back to the buffaloes' crowd, whose chief proponent, Jane Fonda's ex, Ted Turner, has been buying up huge tracts of the Great Plains for years. These new cats want to rewild our prairies with African wildlife. Lions and elephants and more would roam the 'wasteland', if they get their way.
These pointy headed professors must think nobody owns this land now, or if they do, they just haven't found any good use for it yet. Grazing cattle and raising feed crops don't fit into their PETAfied view of proper land use. If Bush doesn't care about blacks, then these vapid elitists don't care about farmers and ranchers. Peasants, I guess.
I'm going to predict that this rewilding baloney never happens.
More proof Nebraskans won't like rewilding: Monkeys shot for escaping zoo!
**OK, they were chimps. Chimpanzee, orangutan, baboon, ape, it doesn't matter. They are all monkeys to me. It won't make any difference to you, either, when they get into your chicken house.
http://feedlot.blogspot.com/2005/09/rewilding-great-plains.html
http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/index.php?page=local&story_id=090203c3_wolfreintroductio
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KeepOurFreedoms
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Posted: Sat Oct 29th, 2005 11:10 pm |
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PRIVATE LAND IS SOCIAL INJUSTICE
Derry Brownfield
June 7, 2005
NewsWithViews.com
One of the topics I discuss in detail on the Common Sense Coalition is PRIVATE PROPERTY and how the government and the extreme environmentalists are doing everything in their power to eliminate it.
The United States was founded by people who wanted to own property and were willing to risk their lives in order to live in a country where that was possible. The very first plank in the Communist Manifesto is THE ABOLITION OF PRIVATE PROPERTY and for decades our Communist leaning Socialists have been trying to carry out that mandate. I have a copy of an article titled, "Tugwell Predicts New Regulations for Land with Federal Control" The article states:
Use of all land, public and private, will be controlled by the federal government in the future. Assistant Secretary of Agriculture Rexford Tugwell predicted this week. Land which cannot be operated effectively under private ownership will be held by the government as public forests, parks, game preserves, grazing ranges, recreation centers and the like, Tugwell asserted.
Privately owned land will be controlled "to whatever extend is found necessary for maintaining continuous productivity. We have dependent too long on the hope that private ownership and control would operate somehow for the benefit of society as a whole. That hope has not been realized." Tugwell went on to say, "We already had too many farmers. We could probably raise all the farm products we need with half our present farmers. Private control has failed to use wisely its control of the land. We are preparing a land program not merely for the benefit of those who held title to it but for the greater welfare of all the citizens of the country."
What you just read appeared in the PHILLIP COUNTY NEWS, Malta, Montana, January 4, 1934 (70 years ago). This past June (2004) the United Nations held a conference concerning these issues. Attendees at that conference heard that:
"Private land ownership is a principal instrument of accumulation and concentration of wealth and therefore contributes to social injustice. Land cannot be treated as an ordinary asset, controlled by individuals and subject to the pressures and inefficiencies of the market."
It is obvious that these people are very patient. They work slow and inconspicuously, knowing that eventually the American people will yield to their (socialist) plans. Most Americans have no concept of what is taking place in the country and actually believe that the government will care for them from the cradle to the grave.
They are so far removed from the land and the private ownership of property that they feel socialism is good for the nation.
America - wake up - It's later that you realize.
© 2005 Derry Brownfield - All Rights Reserved
http://www.newswithviews.com/brownfield/brownfield53.htm
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Posted: Sun Oct 30th, 2005 06:40 am |
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Think for yourself KOF, instead of responding by posting articles written by somebody you've never met respond with a thought of your own for once. Sure, the government probably wants to "rewild" the more eastern parts of the country but why would they do it in private? Why? There's absolutely no reason to. Reintroducing a species of animals isn't exactly the easiest thing to do. It takes enormous amounts of time, effort, money, and resources. Not only that but it's so cumbersome that private organizations sometimes need to play a role. There's no possible way the government could get involved in such a huge undertaking without the public finding out. Even if they wanted to keep it a secret there would be so many possible levels where the secret would come out.
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Posted: Sun Oct 30th, 2005 04:07 pm |
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EC wrote: Think for yourself KOF, instead of responding by posting articles written by somebody you've never met respond with a thought of your own for once. Sure, the government probably wants to "rewild" the more eastern parts of the country but why would they do it in private? Why? There's absolutely no reason to. Reintroducing a species of animals isn't exactly the easiest thing to do. It takes enormous amounts of time, effort, money, and resources. Not only that but it's so cumbersome that private organizations sometimes need to play a role. There's no possible way the government could get involved in such a huge undertaking without the public finding out. Even if they wanted to keep it a secret there would be so many possible levels where the secret would come out.
EC, get a grip. I do plenty of thinking on my own. If an article can say it better than I can.....I post it. Why don't you contact the writer of that article yourself? You can even listen to his talk show. I bet you could learn something.
Do you have any clue to what the government has done without the people finding out?
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Posted: Sun Oct 30th, 2005 05:45 pm |
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If you can think for yourself respond to the content in my previous post.
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Posted: Sun Oct 30th, 2005 07:28 pm |
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EC wrote: If you can think for yourself respond to the content in my previous post.
Why? Can't you think for yourself? Can't you do your own research?
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Posted: Sun Oct 30th, 2005 09:06 pm |
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That's what I thought.
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Posted: Sun Oct 30th, 2005 10:03 pm |
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EC wrote: That's what I thought.
Yeah.........me too..........you just like to blow smoke.
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