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Posted: Mon Jan 29th, 2007 02:47 pm |
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Hi,
I'm not totally sure how to post something but I want to say I live in Northern NJ and there have been a few sightings of mountain lions in the Vernon area. I live in Wantage and we have a large field behind our house about 4 acres in size that I have been walking around every morning about 7:30 am. Usually there are deer and wild turkeys in that field just about every day at various times. Yesterday about 4 pm I counted 13 deer there. Anyway, yesterday when I got to the farthest point of the field I smelled an overwhelming amount of cat urine. Like around a dozen domestic cats had sprayed there. I couldn't figure it out. Later it occurred to me that it could possibly have been a mountain lion marking it's territory.
Any comments?
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Posted: Tue Jan 30th, 2007 04:07 pm |
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I live in Berea ( which is close to the Red Lick area ) and have seen 2 black panthers in my life-time. I observed one black panther one night ( around 2300 Hour ) a few months back while I was visiting my mother who lives in the Dreyfus area ( Bearwallow ). This black panther that I last saw almost caused me to wreck off the road due to it walking out almost into the middle of the road in front of my car. At first I thought I was seeing a really large dog but then I could see how its shoulders were "slinking" in a cat-like stance. The large black panther slowly moved out from in front of my car and then it lunged over a fence beside my car. I tried to get a picture of the cat from my digital camera but couldn't because it was running too fast into the nearby field.
The other black panther I have observed over my life-time was a very long time ago - I was probably only 3 years old ( so this was back in the 1970s ). I was playing on a swing-set with my sister when I heard something moving in the tall field behind us. I slowly turned to look behind me and then all I remember is my mother screaming at us to run and I caught a quick glimpse of these huge greenish eyes and black fur on something. For years I thought I saw a bear that day but later on , my mother, assured me that it was a black panther that had been stalking my sister and I. Apparently, the huge cat had been waiting for the opportunity to hop over the fence close to the field and have one of us for a great meal 
I saw a "Bob Cat" when I was around 10 years old............I had been out in the woods playing behind my grandpas house ( alone ) and heard something growling/hissing at me.....only it was a much deeper growl or hiss than the common house cat could produce. I couldn't determine where the sound was coming from at first but then I looked up into a tree that was directly above me and I saw this huge short but stocky cat. This cat started easing down the tree toward me so I ran as fast as I could until I got close to a cliff close by........I slipped on some wet rock and fell down the cliff ( hill side ) until I stopped at the bottom where I literally busted my head open on a good sized rock. I don't know why the cat didn't chase after me because I would have made an easy kill due to the fact that I had been knocked out cold for untelling how much time at the bottom of that cliff. I remember getting up and walking out of the woods back home and then my grandparents' were very mad at me for waiting until dark to make it home. I think I managed to get scentenced to a full day of working in Tobacco for my punishment for not making it home before dark that night. Of course, as my luck would go...........the very next day while I was working in Tobacco ( without pay to assure punishment )....my grandfather ran the tractor I was riding on the back of into a whole stretch of Cedar trees ( on accident )and one of the trees struck me in the back of my head which caused me to be knocked out yet again.
I assure anyone out there that there are indeed black panthers and bob cats...etc. in the state of Kentucky ( especially in Madison co. anyway ). If you listen long enough late at night around where my mom lives, you can hear the awful scream that the locals know belongs to a black panther.
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Posted: Tue Jan 30th, 2007 07:37 pm |
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| I was always told that a bobcat sounds like a woman screaming
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Posted: Wed Jan 31st, 2007 11:12 pm |
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catjfk wrote: I was always told that a bobcat sounds like a woman screaming yes bobcats sound like a woman being attacked!! and im only on hear because i was looking things up on mountain lions my neighbor saw one yesterday he said it was about 8 feet long and very large it was right off the side of 145 going towards preston hollow and this is not the first time ,there were two more people who saw it last year, does anyone else want to admit it ! my dad has taken me in the woods since i was very young here in the catskills and always told me to beware of the mountain lion they are here in the woods and he was one of the best hunters i know.
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Posted: Thu Feb 1st, 2007 12:47 pm |
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tracyvand wrote: Later it occurred to me that it could possibly have been a mountain lion marking it's territory.
Question: If it was a mountain lion marking it's territory, is it safe to be walking along the edge of that field in the morning? I mean how likely is it for them to attack a human?
I really would like to resume my morning walk.
Thanks,
tracyvand
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Posted: Tue Jan 15th, 2008 02:17 am |
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I've seen mountain lions here in western Ky. I have pics of a track 3 inches by 3 inches that I cast from a track on my property in southeast Calloway Co, Ky. Wanna know more contact me...ken2kc@yahoo.com
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Posted: Tue Jan 15th, 2008 02:52 am |
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I've seen a black panther on my property in southeast Calloway Co. Ky on the east embayment of Blood River Bay- Ky. Lake. My second sighting was a tan ( sand) color mountain lion about 1 1/2 miles northeast of my property. Others here in the area have also seen a black panther... but our Ky.Dept of Fish & Wildlife say they don't exist in North America. Several locals here in Calloway Co,Ky has seen & reported mountain lions. The KDFW still will not confirm that these cats roam our woodlands ... they say they lack proof of a pic or video. Oh well for those of us thats seen them... we don't need to prove anything !!!
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Posted: Mon Mar 10th, 2008 02:50 pm |
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| My dad owns 18 acres in Ohio, it's composed mostly of trees and heavy brush with a pond and a large pasture. My family as well as friends hunt the property for white tail and turkey. During deer season in November I believe a large black cat was spotted by a friend of ours hunting from a deer blind. He had set out some deer attractant on the ground about 30 feet away and while he was waiting for deer the large black cat came out of nowhere and started licking up the attractant. He said that it turned and looked at him, kept licking, and then walked away. Later that night he called the DNR officer for our county and he stated that there had been multiple sightings of this cat around our area (North West Ohio) and they had even had someone from our local zoo out to identify footprints. That's all I know about the sightings up here but since they have been confirmed by the dept. of natural resources I can't imagine it could be made up! I don't know if it's a mountain lion, panther, jaguar or what but he thought the tail looked like it was about 5 ft. long...
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Posted: Mon Mar 10th, 2008 03:04 pm |
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| There are still mountain lions in the forests of the Pacific Northwest as well, but they're so solitary and shy that if you spot one, consider yourself lucky.. very lucky.
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Posted: Mon Mar 10th, 2008 03:05 pm |
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You also mention Jaguars.
Jaguars used to live as far north as central California and southern Texas. But urbanization and systematic killings have brought their northernmost range limit to the Yucatan peninsula.
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Posted: Tue Mar 11th, 2008 12:41 am |
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Quote - Steph: "My brother spotted a mountain lion on the back of our quad in Ripley NY at night using a spotlight. another neighbor heard a loud noise and went outside (at night agian) and spotted the mountian lion using his spotlight."
Did the mountain lion ever return the spotlights to your brother or your neighbor?
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| I personally saw three big cats together in upstate, NY back in the late 1970's. Was standing out in my driveway talking with a relative, and we both saw the three cats that had run out of an abandoned old barn on neighbors land across the rd. They acted as though they were chasing each other; running real fast and they ran on up and around behind the barn and into the woods. That was in the middle of the day. There were two black, and a tawny. Their sizes loked to be way bigger than the "big red male irish setter I owned. I'm sure they each weighed over 100+lbs, and strong looking cats, with long tails. I'll never forget it as my relative looked at me, and I her, and she asked me what I had just seen, and I told her "three very big cats running out of the barn chasing each other up and around the back of the barn," and she said, "That's exactly what I saw!" She wanted to go up there right away to see if we could see them, and I told her she had to be nuts as they were BIG! We walked up there, and sure enough there were all kind of big cat tracks in the dirt there. The tracks measured 5" width pad prints. Never thought to try and make a plaster cast of the prints, but then never thought there would be so much controversy over the big cats being in NYS! My neighbors didn't believe they were there till they also saw the cats! I also used to take walks alone in the woods in back of the house and would hear what sounded like twig snapping, but when I'd stop never heard any sounds. Spooked me so I stopped taling the walks alone. I moved to Va several yrs ago, but my daughter and son live up there, and say the big cats still there those parts. My son told me back 9-10 yrs ago he had been hunting in the woods there in back of the house, and had got chased up a tree by some wolves! He said they were not coydogs. He had dropped his bow in his haste to get up the tree, and didn't have his cell phone with him so he was up the tree a god while till the wolves finally left. After they finally left he made a hasty retreat to the house about a 1/4 mi away. Why people keep denying the big cats are in NY or other states on the east coast is beyond me cuz I know what I and others I know saw and they could not be mistaken for anything else but very big cats with very long tails!....cilla
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Posted: Mon Aug 11th, 2008 02:12 am |
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| I jus read your post about the big blk cat in Tioga. Not too far from where I had my sighting back in late 1970's! I live now in Va, but back then we lived up on East Hill that overlooks Elmira, and the valley below! Our land was lots of woods all around. I'd heard the cat, or cats before thst and didn't know what it was, but it scared me as It was in daytime and it ws so loud and sounded like a woman screaming, the other time it sounded like a bby crying! I asked my dad about it and he told me it was a puma, or panther! The day I saw the 3 big cats tog, my niece had been up to see me and we were standing in driveway talking and we both saw the cats on the property across the rd. (see the other post I left on this site about that.) Two of the cats were black, and the other was tawny color! Why they were tog lie that I haven't a clue? People those parts back then were seeing and hearing things so much so that a biologist from PA had come up there to interview people. I talked with both the biologist, and game warden about the cats. Although others saw the cats at times, noone ever got pictures. I never thought to get plaster casts of the prints they left that day, but then I never thought so much controversy would be about it all! The prints I saw were cat pad prints in the mud and they measured 5" across the pad. I can' rem that biologists name it's been to long ago. My daughter stil lives there in that house today with her family and she says the big cats are still there in chemung and other counties up there. When I think back its scarey cuz my kids used to play down in those woods, and we would take long walks thru the woods as well. My son says the wolves are up there now and that he was coming back from hunting a few yrs ago wolves chased him up a tree, and he had to wait till they finally tired and left before he could make it back to the house! So what's the latest your way regarding the cats? cila
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edro14
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Posted: Tue Aug 12th, 2008 11:54 pm |
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Jaguars, bobcats and pumas are found in Arizona, New Mexico and Texas.
Jaguars have been tracked as far up as the 4 corners area of Arizona. There are reports of 2 male and one female.
An article can be found about their sighting in the smithonian magazine.
My apology to admin, if by chance me pointing out the magazine violates any p.com rule.
I grew up in Arizona near the superticious mountains. I saw many cougars (pumas-mountain lions along the creek bed beolw our property. Down the was we had 3 nnaturally feed ponds where the wild life would come to drink.
We adopted a baby bobcat that wondered on onto our kitchen door half starved. Cato was later killed by a neighbor for breaking into and eating his rabbits. Cato seemed to like the neighbors live food!
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12Plus1
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Posted: Wed Aug 13th, 2008 12:10 am |
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edro14 wrote: Jaguars, bobcats and pumas are found in Arizona, New Mexico and Texas.
Jaguars have been tracked as far up as the 4 corners area of Arizona. There are reports of 2 male and one female.
An article can be found about their sighting in the smithonian magazine.
My apology to admin, if by chance me pointing out the magazine violates any p.com rule.
I grew up in Arizona near the superticious mountains. I saw many cougars (pumas-mountain lions along the creek bed beolw our property. Down the was we had 3 nnaturally feed ponds where the wild life would come to drink.
We adopted a baby bobcat that wondered on onto our kitchen door half starved. Cato was later killed by a neighbor for breaking into and eating his rabbits. Cato seemed to like the neighbors live food!
Not to get off topic, but why would mentioning the Smithsonian Magazine get you in trouble? It's all part of an intelligent discussion about big cats in this country. There is little chance that the entire Perspectives membership is going to resign and start reading the Smithsonian exclusively. How about it, mods, is this something we really have to worry about?
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edro14
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Posted: Wed Aug 13th, 2008 12:16 am |
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12Plus1 wrote: edro14 wrote: Jaguars, bobcats and pumas are found in Arizona, New Mexico and Texas.
Jaguars have been tracked as far up as the 4 corners area of Arizona. There are reports of 2 male and one female.
An article can be found about their sighting in the smithonian magazine.
My apology to admin, if by chance me pointing out the magazine violates any p.com rule.
I grew up in Arizona near the superticious mountains. I saw many cougars (pumas-mountain lions along the creek bed beolw our property. Down the was we had 3 nnaturally feed ponds where the wild life would come to drink.
We adopted a baby bobcat that wondered on onto our kitchen door half starved. Cato was later killed by a neighbor for breaking into and eating his rabbits. Cato seemed to like the neighbors live food!
Not to get off topic, but why would mentioning the Smithsonian Magazine get you in trouble? It's all part of an intelligent discussion about big cats in this country. There is little chance that the entire Perspectives membership is going to resign and start reading the Smithsonian exclusively. How about it, mods, is this something we really have to worry about?
incidently CNN also published a report on the big cats. Chertoof also sounded off about the border fence being more important than any cougar, ocelot or jaguar.
Oops did I say ocelot, yep they too were roaming free in Arizona and New Mexico some 70 years back. The ranchers in these border states pretty much killed all the will life off in order to get free range for their cattle. ALl the Buffalo that roamed the Arizona land was wiped out by the time the last of the Apaches were forced into the San Carlos reservation! Even the antelope in Arizona was wiped out!
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edro14
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Posted: Wed Aug 13th, 2008 12:22 am |
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12Plus1 wrote: edro14 wrote: Jaguars, bobcats and pumas are found in Arizona, New Mexico and Texas.
Jaguars have been tracked as far up as the 4 corners area of Arizona. There are reports of 2 male and one female.
An article can be found about their sighting in the smithonian magazine.
My apology to admin, if by chance me pointing out the magazine violates any p.com rule.
I grew up in Arizona near the superticious mountains. I saw many cougars (pumas-mountain lions along the creek bed beolw our property. Down the was we had 3 nnaturally feed ponds where the wild life would come to drink.
We adopted a baby bobcat that wondered on onto our kitchen door half starved. Cato was later killed by a neighbor for breaking into and eating his rabbits. Cato seemed to like the neighbors live food!
Not to get off topic, but why would mentioning the Smithsonian Magazine get you in trouble? It's all part of an intelligent discussion about big cats in this country. There is little chance that the entire Perspectives membership is going to resign and start reading the Smithsonian exclusively. How about it, mods, is this something we really have to worry about?
incidently CNN also published a report on the big cats. Chertoof also sounded off about the border fence being more important than any cougar, ocelot or jaguar.
Oops did I say ocelot, yep they too were roaming free in Arizona and New Mexico some 70 years back. The ranchers in these border states pretty much killed all the will life off in order to get free range for their cattle. ALl the Buffalo that roamed the Arizona land was wiped out by the time the last of the Apaches were forced into the San Carlos reservation! Even the antelope in Arizona was wiped out!
okay so here are the watchdogs groups of big cats in Arizona:
Borderlands Jaguar Protection Project
Northern Jaguar Project
Malpai Borderland roup
Defenders of Wildlife
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Posted: Sat Oct 4th, 2008 02:29 pm |
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Recently (2 days ago) my outside motion camera caught an image of a beautiful mountain lion in my backyard at night about 2:30 am. DNR/WRD needs to acknowledge the presence of these animals rather that stating they are probably a pet that someone released. I live in the foothills of the Appalachian Mountains in Northeast Georgia and have heard them numerous times, and seen one one time. Other people in the area have also seen and heard them. I am a wildlife artist/columnist/author/photographer, with the research I do I know what I saw, and what I have an image of on film. Georgia DNR/WRD need to ackowledge they are here, and are wild animals not pets.
http://www.scottanna.com
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edro14
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Posted: Sat Oct 4th, 2008 04:17 pm |
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mountain lions are indeed nocturnal. They also move around during dusk and dawn. Midday movement is usually very restricted. They will hnt during the day if thy are extremely hungry!
They typically are very shy animals. Barking dogs will frighten them off easily.
I grew up in an area of Arizona where many mountain lions and bobcats existed, also
bears and an occasional wolf.
DNR tries to keep this information away from the public in order to protect these animals that are making a come back.
The biggest problem when I was growing up was teens who were learning how to hunt. The would kill any animal they saw in the wild.
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